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zerzic
zerzic
Im planning on making a proffesional game with the Quake II Engine called Plantain Lily . I know it might sound like I am mad and we all know that you could use the Quake III engine and the game would look much better. But what I am doing is using the core of the Quake 2 engine and then adding ambient lighting .etc . Quake II is still a hoot to play and the game feels great. I also cant afford the heavy fee of 250,000 $ for the Quake III engine :O. So I am looking for a programmer who would want a small job of adding effects to the Quake 2 engine and compiling new parts for the engine to fit my game. I am designing a plugin for Lightwave so the models can be compiled into the Quake II engine. The version of the Quake II engine I am using is licensed under GPL and is upgraded a small bit, but still doesnt have the effects of newer games. I can briefly tell you the story and how the game will work: The game is set in 1983-84 and the game is based on terrorists and anti terrorists. Terrorists - Palestinian Anti Terrorists - Israel While Israel makes there own weapons and vehicles such as Uzi/Submachine guns, Palestinians get there weapons and vehicles from Russia such as the AK - 47.Palestinians and Israelis both can use the same weapons. The game will be like Tac Ops and will have team based or other scenario battles. It will be on the internet or you can train offline. Many vehicles will be in the game, ready for use such as tanks, jets, helicopters, frogs similiar to SCUDS and more. I have to tell you now that the game wont be unrealistic and have laser''s. There will be Rocket Launchers and rare Flame throwers which will be very realistic. The concept artist is designing vehicles and has been drawing concept art his whole life (im serious). My role is Lead design, 3d modeler, web design and some of the artwork. Thanks for reading my post, cheers. and the Plantain Lily site will be up shortly www.plantainlily.com
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locutus
locutus
You can find a modified quake 2 engine to use thats just as good as quake 3 very easily. Best place to check is to logon irc.telefragged.com or net or something and go to #openquake
locutus
locutus
Also, having just returned from Israel, you need to make the army all teenagers and featuring hot high school girls, for realism.
zerzic
zerzic
Well thanks, Il do it all myself then! Hopefully someone will like it and Il get some money for rent ;p!
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eldee
eldee
quote:
Original post by zerzic
Well thanks, Il do it all myself then! Hopefully someone will like it and Il get some money for rent ;p!


mmmm.. maybe you should read the quake 2 source license before trying
to get any rent money off it
zerzic
zerzic
Ive read the license and you can use it as your own but you cant use anything from the game!
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eldee
eldee
he *can* sell his game.. but he''ll have to abide by the GPL, which imho is pretty damn strict. I was just insinuating that he might want to go with a different engine, since theres a slim to none chance of making ''rent money'' off a GPL engine, when users have full access to your games'' source code..

read the selling part of the GPL license

-eldee
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mentalstatement
mentalstatement
ohhh, the isrealy army..that brings back memories.. to bad i left so early, otherwise i could be playin spin the mp-40 with those hot highschool babes
Maaaaaaaahahaha. Who''s da king baby?
mentalstatement
mentalstatement
u know when u have bean playing wolfenstein to long then....

by the way, what textures are u planning on using? quake2''s just look so dated
Maaaaaaaahahaha. Who''s da king baby?
zerzic
zerzic
Oh and Quake 2 Does look a bit outdated but I am upgrading it. If you own the game, it gives you, in the video menu an option to use open gl. When you use it, Quake 2 looks as good as Quake 3 Arena (Im not joking). But I will use the latest graphics cards to render it and I will also add effects to the game and cut out the blockiness. Another great thing about using the engine is that there will be no lag because the engine is 5 years old! you may not know, but the visually impressive Soldier of Fortune used the Quake 2 engine.

ps: I knew a guy who lived in Israel, He is so lucky all the hot babes. I wonder if they wear thongs??
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barazor
barazor
quote:
Original post by eldee
he *can* sell his game.. but he''ll have to abide by the GPL, which imho is pretty damn strict. I was just insinuating that he might want to go with a different engine, since theres a slim to none chance of making ''rent money'' off a GPL engine, when users have full access to your games'' source code..
i don''t believe you have to GPL the mod code at all, just the engine source. and even then you don''t have to include makefiles or anything like that to make it easy to compile
locutus
locutus
"he *can* sell his game.. but he''ll have to abide by the GPL, which imho is pretty damn strict. I was just insinuating that he might want to go with a different engine, since theres a slim to none chance of making ''rent money'' off a GPL engine, when users have full access to your games'' source code.."

Giving people full access to the source code doesnt hurt sales whatsoever. Because they still have to buy the art and models which are under normal copyright. All games should be GPL. Free software has nothing to do with price.
JonW
JonW
quote:
Original post by locutus
Giving people full access to the source code doesnt hurt sales whatsoever. Because they still have to buy the art and models which are under normal copyright. All games should be GPL. Free software has nothing to do with price.


I never thought about it that way. All the games I''ve made are 2D with bitmaps to allow players to modify the art, but I''ll have to remember that if I ever make a 3D game.

zerzic
zerzic
I wont care if people take the source code because when im done I will be giving away the heavily modified QUake 2 engine for my game so it doesnt matter. When you use the GPL engine itl be easy for people to get mods. If you have ever played Quake 2, you will know that on the gamespy arcade version if you join a game using quake 2 but the game is in a mod, it actualy downloads the map in the tilde screen so you dont have to go to a website to acquire it. My game will be $20 - $30 when it is finished. Il make it clear that my game will NOT BE A BUDGETWARE game (also known as shovelware) and will be as good or even better than games that will come in a year from now. My game isnt just based on visuals but is based on gameplay and fun. Quake 2 has great gameplay and is still a h00t to play! Il reassure you that the graphics will still look awesome.

The website for my game will be up shortly after it has been fully uploaded to the server. So could you help me and put a bookmark to www.plantainlily.com. I hope that in a month there will be a good community in the forums!
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epsilon42
epsilon42
I''m still waiting for this www.plantainlily.com that you told us was coming up 1 month ago.

Can we see some of these models, or concept art so far?

And if you say you don''t have any yet because you just started, then there''s no excuse as to why your website should take a day to upload unless you have a really crappy server.

However I am happy for you that you decided to stick to the name "Plantain Lily" and aren''t focusing on a MMORPG called "Eternia" that you stated would have screenshots in 3-5 days a few months ago.

Conclusion:
Maybe you should spend less time posting messages on here and more time making a design doc that you know you won''t totally scrap after a month or so. All the time you spent posting on here you''d have probably learnt how to program already.

Well my meaningful post will probably get deleted for being flame again :/
epsilon42
epsilon42
P.S.

There already exists a free plugin for Lightwave to export to .md2 format. Just Google it a bit.
zerzic
zerzic
The reason that the games site isnt up is because my brother bought the hosting service for me for christmas and he still has to get his credit card paid off so Is that a good enough answer?
Oh and why are you being such a prat? You should be happy that someones making a game by them selves and ist doing it for money ;p.
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epsilon42
epsilon42
=0/ don''t say i didn''t warn you
MrCamels
MrCamels
btw, my project started with the q2 engine, and is more than capable of beating out quake3 and a lot of recent games graphically and in rendering, lot of work, but it looks sweet
-MrCamels

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