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GravtyKlz
GravtyKlz
Im trying to review some of my math skills and I cant figure something out. This isnt a school question either. Heres the question... There are two poles that are 100 feet high. If you span the poles with a 150 foot rope, and in the middle it sags 25 feet, what is the distance between the two poles? What kind of equation can I make to figure this out? Thanks
h0-0t
h0-0t
The rope could be in the shape of a semi-circle. If you want to assume that it is in such a form, take a measurement of the distance between the top of one of the poles and the lowest point on the rope, this will be your radius. Now, use the circumference formula for a semi circle (pi*radius) to find he length of your rope. Simple

[edited by - h0-0t on April 12, 2003 3:56:16 PM]
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GravtyKlz
GravtyKlz
I guess I asked my question wrongly then...I need to find the distance between the two poles, not the length of the arc.
DDnewbie
DDnewbie
Hi,

I approximate the length between the poles to be 100 feet.

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[edited by - silvren on April 12, 2003 5:14:32 PM]
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sQuid
sQuid
quote:
Original post by GravtyKlz
I guess I asked my question wrongly then...I need to find the distance between the two poles, not the length of the arc.


Well, you''ve got a 150ft long catenery (hyperbola)

so y = Acosh(Bx) + C

x = 0 is halfway between the poles. A,B and C are constants - finding their values is the exercise. Then you will know at what values of x you have y = 100ft.

vanillacoke
vanillacoke
The shape of any thin cable hanging in a uniform gravitational field will take the form of a catenary, y=cosh(x)=(e^x+e^-x)/2. To find the distance between the poles, you need to analyze the curve itself. You know the arclength, and three points that the curve passes through. With these values, (actually, you only need two points and the arclength) you can find the unique catenary curve. If you haven''t taken physics and calculus, you probably won''t be able to understand the derivation, but the equation is fairly simple, if you set up your coordinate system correctly. I don''t know it offhand, and I don''t know the derivation, so that''s all the help I can offer. If you need only approximate values, you can use a graphing calculator to figure them out.
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grhodes_at_work
grhodes_at_work
quote:
Original post by GravtyKlz
This isnt a school question either.


Well, okay, but it sounds like a homework problem. And not that I don''t trust you, but when you ask a question that sounds like you''re asking a homework question, please in the future show us YOUR work, .



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grhodes_at_work
grhodes_at_work
This problem is too similar to another post, and both are very homework-like without following the forum rules for homework type problems. Therefore, I''m closing the thread.

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