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Different mentalities

Started by Cedric Apr 30, 2003 at 9:46 PM 9 replies 350+ views
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Cedric
Cedric
Last year, I began university and moved on campus. On my story (or level? I''m not sure of the word), half of the students were from another country, and since it''s a francophone university, none of them were from the United States, so their culture was really different than what I was used to, and I liked it. I found that their mentality was a lot closer to mine than other local students. I ended up being the only student from Quebec who kept hanging out with them. To put it bluntly, I''ve never felt Canadian, or Quebecer, and now, it seems clearer than ever that I don''t really belong here. My only worry is that these students are not representative of their culture, since only "rich" parents from these countries can send their children abroad for study. For example, one of these students is from Morocco. One day, she called home, and a girl answered. She was confused, because she didn''t have any sister. My friend''s mom later told her that they had adopted this girl, because her parents had died, and none of her uncles could take care of her. This seems so amazing to me. I don''t know personally anyone who has ever adopted a kid in Quebec, and my friend tells me that in Morocco, it''s almost frequent. She knows several people who have done it, and it seems so natural for them. Does anyone have a similar story to tell? I''m seriously considering going abroad after my B.Sc., but I have no idea where I should go. I need to escape from the western mentality. Any suggestion? Cédric
kordova
kordova
Isn''t it Quebecois?
Cedric
Cedric
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Original post by kordova
Isn''t it Quebecois?

In French, yes. But how would you pronounce it? The same way Americans destroy words like "gourmet" or "sautéed"?

IIRC, the correct term is Quebecer in English.

Cédric
reaptide
reaptide
Personally my friends and I prefer to use the term "pepper" or "frog" but those are quite derogatory. Of course the anglophones are "tête carrée".

I''m an anglophone living in Québec and I''m always feeling like I don''t fit in. Thankfully living in Montreal greatly offsets this (Being an emmensely multi-cultural city). Francophone Québecers always seem to be cold and grumpy and rude.

I went to Switzerland a few years back and suffered a total culture shock. I practically begged my tour leader to leave me behind, I love that country so much. I crossed the street over there like I would here (By stepping into a busy street and hoping I don''t get killed) and every motorist came to a stop, waved at me and allowed me to cross the street with no problem. They even smiled when I gave them a friendly wave back. Over here I''d get a "Sortez de la estit rue, collis!" yelled at me.
Feblex
Feblex
I pronounce Quebecois "Assholes".
reaptide
reaptide
That isn''t a very accurate way of saying things. I might be english but I am still Québecois. I love this provence. I just hate the people living in it.

So were to refering to Francophone Québecois as assholes or anglophone or all of us.

Really its okay... I want to know. How can I stop being an asshole if I don''t know I am one .

Why can''t the french Canadians in this country finally figure out that they are in the minority and their language is dying and they mind as well give up and face the music. Very soon they will be unable to communicate with the world. I get people coming into my resturant every day that can''t speak a word of english. I wonder how it is that they can get along in the world. Obviously they aren''t working for a company that needs to deal with anyone outside of Québec.
Cedric
Cedric
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Original post by reaptide
I''m an anglophone living in Québec and I''m always feeling like I don''t fit in. Thankfully living in Montreal greatly offsets this (Being an emmensely multi-cultural city). Francophone Québecers always seem to be cold and grumpy and rude.

I don''t know any anglophone Quebecer personally; maybe I should take hang someplace where I might meet some of them. My dad keeps telling me that anglophones are, well, bad (he doesn''t say it so kindly), and I think that''s a common problem among francophones, which is one of the reasons why francophones and anglophones don''t mix very often, even in Montreal.
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I went to Switzerland a few years back and suffered a total culture shock. I practically begged my tour leader to leave me behind, I love that country so much. I crossed the street over there like I would here (By stepping into a busy street and hoping I don''t get killed) and every motorist came to a stop, waved at me and allowed me to cross the street with no problem. They even smiled when I gave them a friendly wave back.

Yes, that would be the kind of mentality change that I would like to experience.
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Over here I''d get a "Sortez de la estit rue, collis!" yelled at me.

So true, and so sad.
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Original post by mrbugg
I pronounce Quebecois "Assholes".

If that''s because of what I answered to Kordova, I didn''t mean to sound rude. As far as destroying words from foreign languages goes, Quebecers are hard to beat, IMO.

If you really did mean what you wrote, you should... reconsider it.

Cédric
Feblex
Feblex
No, I mean Francophone Quebecois. The minority refuses to stop continually demanding special status from the Federal government. Me and my English teacher were debating this, and he kept saying "That's not a very Canadian attitude" when I brought up the concept of Quebec leaving the country. Was Bill 101 Canadian? Is continually demanding preferential treatment for some kind of alleged oppression Canadian?

[edited by - mrbugg on April 30, 2003 12:25:47 AM]
OctDev
OctDev
quote:
Original post by cedricl
This seems so amazing to me.
I am confused; are you rich, or just everyone that comes to your school from abroad? If you are not, then to keep things in perspective--rich people have the means to do things like that. Not all will, obviously, but it is not fair to compare an act like that between different classes of people, because the sacrifice is much different.

However if all of your friends are rich (in Quebec) then maybe you have found nicer cultures to hang out with and possibly live in in hte future.

The Tyr project is here.
Cedric
Cedric
quote:
Original post by mrbugg
No, I mean Francophone Quebecois. The minority refuses to stop continually demanding special status from the Federal government. Me and my English teacher were debating this, and he kept saying "That''s not a very Canadian attitude" when I brought up the concept of Quebec leaving the country. Was Bill 101 Canadian? Is continually demanding preferential treatment for some kind of alleged oppression Canadian?

Yeah, I partially agree with you. IMO, Quebec should either leave the country or shut up (on political fronts). The Bloc Québécois is a ridiculous idea. Anyway, that''s not what my post is about.
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Original post by OctDev
I am confused; are you rich, or just everyone that comes to your school from abroad?

I''m not rich. My parents are from the upper-middle class, and I haven''t lived with them during the last year. I live with 6-7000 US dollars/year. The foreign students do have pretty fortunate parents, but since they are from developing countries, I don''t feel that they are "rich" by North America''s standards.
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If you are not, then to keep things in perspective--rich people have the means to do things like that. Not all will, obviously, but it is not fair to compare an act like that between different classes of people, because the sacrifice is much different.

However if all of your friends are rich (in Quebec) then maybe you have found nicer cultures to hang out with and possibly live in in hte future.

Adoption was only an example. They practically never drink alcohol. It seems simple, but it makes a big difference to me.

Cédric
kordova
kordova
Operation Liberate Quebec, Bush style.

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