Google

Like this.

And this!

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Original post by kordova
Like this.

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That site is so full of conjecture and crap!

Witchcraven, this is how Google works, if you''d bother to dig around their site. Google -> Services & Tools -> Our technology.

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Original post by Oluseyi
That site is so full of conjecture and crap!

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Haha. Yeah. I love the internet.

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That site is so full of conjecture and crap!

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Its the biggest load of BS I''ve seen in a while. I particularly liked the comment:

"Most of the time they don''t even answer email from webmasters."

As if google are going to hire thousands of staff to answer questions from the billions of webmasters with sites in their database.

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Original post by benjamin bunny
As if google are going to hire thousands of staff to answer questions from the billions of webmasters with sites in their database.

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Well if you count the pigeons...

Ok, a bit off topic, what des mysql and the like use to sort so much info. I have a better idea of this, but I would like to know for sure. My google searches were not to useful.

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Original post by Witchcraven
Ok, a bit off topic, what des mysql and the like use to sort so much info. I have a better idea of this, but I would like to know for sure. My google searches were not to useful.

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mysql-4.0.12.tar.gz

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Original post by Oluseyi
That site is so full of conjecture and crap!

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Original post by benjamin bunny
Its the biggest load of BS I''ve seen in a while.

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Although, not completely irrelevant. Considering the increasing popularity of Google, it is a little worrying that one organization has records on the majority of web queries performed and associated data to link them together. Previously, I didn''t know that Google did set such cookies, as I didn''t find any reason why they should, but nontheless:

Set-Cookie: PREF=ID=239bda9660e48802:TM=1052973002:LM=1052973002:S=4-75KtxaxIHxki8e; expires=Sun, 17-Jan-2038 19:14:07 GMT; path=/; domain=.google.com

So, I think that site wasn''t that bad if you read it all. As they state:

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It''s not that we believe Google is evil. What we believe is that Google, Inc. is at a fork in the road, and they have some big decisions to make. This Google Watch site is trying to articulate, publicize, and even dramatize the situation at Google, and encourage more scrutiny of their operations.

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Original post by CWizard
Previously, I didn''t know that Google did set such cookies, as I didn''t find any reason why they should...

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I''ve always known that Google sets cookies. At one time I used to surf in KDE''s Konqueror with Kookiejar set to ask me every time a site attempted to set a cookie. Google actually has search preferences, like safe search (eliminate mature content), default search language and an ever-increasing bevy of others. Your preferences need to be recorded somewhere, much like GameDev stores a cookie on your computer (or pretty much every site you visit these days).

I flush my cache out entirely about once a week. Force of habit.

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So, I think that site wasn''t that bad if you read it all. As they state:
[quote]It''s not that we believe Google is evil. What we believe is that Google, Inc. is at a fork in the road, and they have some big decisions to make. This Google Watch site is trying to articulate, publicize, and even dramatize the situation at Google, and encourage more scrutiny of their operations.

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The above-quoted statement is very quaint and wholesome sounding, but the content that I saw on the site wasn''t.

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Call it class warfare, if you like. Because that brings up the other major gripe that Google Watch has with Google. That''s the PageRank problem -- the fact that Google''s primary ranking algorithm has less to do with the quality of web pages, than it has to do with the "power popularity" of web pages. Their approach to ranking is anti-democratic, in that already-powerful pages are mathematically granted extra power to anoint other pages as powerful.

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So now they want Google to rank sites based on "quality", which is as subjective as you can get and open to both interpretation and perversion, as opposed to allowing the collective regard of webmasters and content creators across the globe generate rankings?

And their 9 Google "sins" (for lack of a more concise term) are somewhere between laughable, idiotic and reactionary. Hell, the Detroit Project equating driving an SUV with terrorism is better than this. And more informed to boot.

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Original post by Oluseyi
I''ve always known that Google sets cookies. At one time I used to surf in KDE''s Konqueror with Kookiejar set to ask me every time a site attempted to set a cookie. Google actually has search preferences, like safe search (eliminate mature content), default search language and an ever-increasing bevy of others. Your preferences need to be recorded somewhere, much like GameDev stores a cookie on your computer (or pretty much every site you visit these days).

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Yes, I knew that it had cookies, but I refered to the ID thingy.

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The above-quoted statement is very quaint and wholesome sounding, but the content that I saw on the site wasn''t.

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I thought that particular page to be intentionally a bit sarcastic and "dramatized", as they somewhat spelled out in that quote.

Much of what was said on that site was not very interesting, although I don''t recall observing any direct fallacies, but burried in it where some valid points which are not less accurate because of the dubious nature of the rest.

I was just objecting of labeling it as "crap" and "BS" as it mostly stated facts and speculated on the consequences/risks of those facts. I''ll have a hard time formulating this, but I don''t have any issues with Google (I use it all the time), and don''t believe that there should be any "police" regulating such matters. Argh, well... nevermind