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Computer temperature, overheating

Started by Cedric Jun 24, 2003 at 5:50 PM 21 replies 3.2k views
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Cedric
Cedric
I''m stuck in a dorm room for the summer, along with my computer. Aeration is poor, at best, and it can get really, really hot. I only get some slight wind if someone else on the other side of the tower opens his door and his window. I''m a little bit worried about my computer. I have an Athlon XP. Is there any chance that my computer might overheat? Last summer, it was always in a cool basement, but now, I''m on the 19th floor... Heat can go up to 34-35 degrees at most, but it is the relative moisture that makes it unbearable (~70%). Does it affect my computer? Is it advisable to shut my computer down whenever I leave for more than an hour? Finally, if it crashes and burns, what will happen? Could I lose my data, or will the CPU simply stop working? Thank you, Cédric
Sakuranbo
Sakuranbo
Hmm. I''m not sure, but see if you can''t get a cheap dehumidifier somewhere.
Raymondo
Raymondo
Overheating and humidity problems can be an issue, so it''s a good idea to make sure your system is protected against those really hot days.

-Open up your case, clean out all the dust (It will keep heat inside your case).

-Make sure you have at least 1 80mm case fan for intake or exaust.(I have to 80mm intakes and one 80mm outtake.)

-Check all your fan connections and wires, and make sure all your fans are working.

-Also if your running an athlon XP, it would probably be a good idea to invest in a quality CPU fan, like the Volcano 9, or a Delta fan and heatsink (Be advised that Delta''s are really loud).

-Keep the back of your case as far away from the wall as possible, that way the hot air can actually escape, instead of lingering around the back of your case making everything warm.

-If it''s REALLY hot out, it would be advisable to shut off your pc whenever your are not using it. If your case is still getting hot, you could also trying running as few CPU intensive applications as possible at any one time. (If at all)

Most motherboards are equipped with onboard detection systems to detect when your CPU is going to/has overheated. The system will warn you (Msg box, beeping, alarm, etc) and then it should shut itself down automatically. However don''t take this functionality for granted, keep an eye on the system temperature yourself.

CPU overheats can seriously damage your machine, regardless of whether you shut it off really fast or not. You can destroy the CPU, motherboard, and internal peripherals devices if it''s serious. It''s very rare that a fire will actually start unless you are overclocking.

If your system overheats, it''s unlikely that your HDD will suffer any damage, unless the HDD itself actually overheats, in which case, you''ll probably need a new HDD.


Does that cover everything?
Voice Of Tango
Voice Of Tango
What CPU temperatures are dangerous? What is the highest temperature that is acceptable?
Greatwolf
Greatwolf
For Athlon XP palamino(.18µ) cpu's I would say keep it below 60c defintely. For the newer Thoroughbred cpus (.13µ) keep it below 50c.





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[edited by - Greatwolf on June 24, 2003 11:24:31 PM]
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drslush
drslush
If you are really concerned, you might want to look into a water cool system. It''d keep your system cool in the warmest of climes, and plus its really nifty too :-D
Raymondo
Raymondo
Actually, you'll find that the hotter the surrounding climate, the less effective your water cooling system is, just like a forced air system, except it's hot water *and* hot air, not just hot air.


It still kicks the shit out of forced air though.

[edited by - raymondo on June 24, 2003 11:34:18 PM]
Greatwolf
Greatwolf
yeah, just remember not to spill anything on the components. Remember, water and electricity don't mix





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[edited by - Greatwolf on June 24, 2003 11:36:51 PM]
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Nypyren
Nypyren
My Thoroughbred gets up to 56C max when I'm gaming, and it hasn't had a problem yet.

All of the advice in here is good... Also, make sure your power supply isn't super-dusty. I've had components fry in the power supply and I had really bad problems until I replaced it.

With the water cooling... if you use distilled water and make sure your case doesn't have any dust/salt in it, leaks won't be a serious problem since distilled water doesn't conduct electricity at ALL. You'll have more time to find the leak before the water mixes with some kind of dust or other stuff to allow it to conduct.

Corrosion *might* be a problem if you seriously don't notice the leak, but at that point you'll probably be out of water and your CPU will fry.

[edited by - Nypyren on June 24, 2003 12:50:09 AM]
Cedric
Cedric
Thanks for the advice everyone. At work, our 8-processor super-computer collapsed under the temperature two weeks ago, so I began worrying about my own PC.

The super-computer has now been renamed "Mephisto"

Thanks!

Cédric
capn_midnight
capn_midnight
the main problem with a water coolant system is condesation, not leaks.

you may want to look into solid state coolers called peltiers. The utilize a unique property of semi conductors. They are very thin, have no moving parts, make no noise, and are very efficient. And you can get a good one at around CAN$70 instead of the CAN$300 for a good water cooling system.



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[edited by - capn_midnight on June 25, 2003 10:43:56 AM]
brain21
brain21
Where can I find info on these "peltiers". Who makes them, where can I get them?
Samith
Samith
ummm my Athlon 2000+ has run up to 80c before Is that like....really bad?
Nypyren
Nypyren
Peltiers still have very high power requirements, don''t they?
Extrarius
Extrarius
quote:
Original post by Samith
ummm my Athlon 2000+ has run up to 80c before Is that like....really bad?
From what I''ve read, they can operate up to about 90C, but running that hot for any extended amount of time greatly shortens their lifespan. You definitely don''t want to keep it running that hot for any longer than absolutely needed.
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Facehat
Facehat
quote:
Original post by capn_midnight
the main problem with a water coolant system is condesation, not leaks.

you may want to look into solid state coolers called peltiers. The utilize a unique property of semi conductors. They are very thin, have no moving parts, make no noise, and are very efficient. And you can get a good one at around CAN$70 instead of the CAN$300 for a good water cooling system.



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[edited by - capn_midnight on June 25, 2003 10:43:56 AM]


Actually as far as I know, energy wise, Peltier's aren't really all that efficient (although it doesn't really matter). I think a lot of people use them in conjunction with a water cooling system.

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[edited by - The Senshi on September 1, 2003 5:49:59 PM]
Facehat
Facehat
quote:
Original post by Samith
ummm my Athlon 2000+ has run up to 80c before Is that like....really bad?


Yes. Make sure your heatsink is attached properly, and you might want to get a good heat conducting compound like arctic silver to place inbetween the proccessor and the heatsink.

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Samith
Samith
Well, I don''t think it is having heating problems, it''s only happened once on a REALLY hot day where it had been running all day long.
sSimontis
sSimontis
If you are scared, you can get some stuff. For about $200 USD you can get a water cooling kit. You can buy memory heatsinks for about $10 USD. You can get hard drive cooling kits for $15 USD. Make sure you have a decent heatsink/fan combo. A mirror heatsink/compound works better than a copper one. As mentioned before, get a good compound. I used the generic stuff that came with my heatsink. You can get some fans for your chipset, but as long as you have thermal compound, a heatsink/fan combo, and a case fan, you are good. I got an 80mm case fan for $10.

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White Crow
White Crow
Hi

I have read on the internet that someone cooled his Pentium III with liquid N2 (I don''t know the word in english) because the cpu was running at 3.1 GHZ. I don''t know if that could be true but it would be COOL
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