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ShlomiSteinberg
ShlomiSteinberg
Can I use Windows applications like Visual Studio .NET and games using Wine on Mandrake Linux 9? And it is free right? "C lets you shoot yourself in the foot rather easily. C++ allows you to reuse the bullet!"
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Pouya
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Yes
And Wine is free, but VS .NET is not.
ShlomiSteinberg
ShlomiSteinberg
Isn''t there a noticeable performance hit if using Wine?

PS: Oh really VS .NET isn''t free?! How surprising!!
PSS: This post was posted from the 3rd tab in my VS .NET..

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No. Wine doesn''t natively support any of those products. You gotta make them work.
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ShlomiSteinberg
ShlomiSteinberg
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Original post by xaxa
No. Wine doesn''t natively support any of those products. You gotta make them work.



Err... How?

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Oodles of stuff still does not work with wine. Lots of things may never work. Its a grand idea and is cool when it works but it often doesn''t. If you need to know about a certain program and what you may need to do to get it working or if its even possible, you need to dig around the wine community. Such things would probably be out of scope for this place. Don''t ever count on it for anything.
BTW Wine is not only free its on your Mandrake disk. I don''t think it installs by default but you can use thier software installer to select and install it. It wont be the newest version but you shouldn''t run into any install problems. I suggest browsing the program list just to see what you may want that you didn''t get on install.
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DakeDesu
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Might I ask why you want to use Visual Studio .Net on a linux box?

There are plethoras of IDEs native to the various POSIX systems (I suggest learning Emacs, and the KDE/QT one is not that bad either), and I believe there are more than a couple ports of .Net to linux (it would seem silly if there weren''t).

As per making windows program, one just needs GCC setup in the correct manner to cross compile to windows.

So, my question is, why?
ShlomiSteinberg
ShlomiSteinberg
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Original post by DakeDesu
Might I ask why you want to use Visual Studio .Net on a linux box?

There are plethoras of IDEs native to the various POSIX systems (I suggest learning Emacs, and the KDE/QT one is not that bad either), and I believe there are more than a couple ports of .Net to linux (it would seem silly if there weren''t).

As per making windows program, one just needs GCC setup in the correct manner to cross compile to windows.

So, my question is, why?




Just thought that I won''t need to port my program to SDL because it sounded like I could use it under Linux with Wine.

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quote:
Original post by ShlomiSteinberg
Just thought that I won''t need to port my program to SDL because it sounded like I could use it under Linux with Wine.

Its true that a simple program can be run under Linux using Wine, and a DirectX program can be ran with WineX.

It is a trade off, which one you want. You can either spend the time trying to get your program to work with Wine, or you can engineer your code to be cross platform. You should get better performance with a native application compared to a pseudo emulated one like Wine. But it might be quicker to get Wine to do your bidding.

You also have to worry about distrubution, since you can''t go around installing Wine / WineX on people''s linux boxes, you''re going to have to hope they know a bit about what they''re doing.



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wild_pointer
quote:
Original post by DakeDesu
Might I ask why you want to use Visual Studio .Net on a linux box?

There are plethoras of IDEs native to the various POSIX systems (I suggest learning Emacs, and the KDE/QT one is not that bad either), and I believe there are more than a couple ports of .Net to linux (it would seem silly if there weren't).

As per making windows program, one just needs GCC setup in the correct manner to cross compile to windows.

So, my question is, why?


I think even fanatics would have to admit Visual Studio is infintely better than anything available on nix. Not free, but he wouldn't be asking if he didn't have it.



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jhavna
jhavna
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Original post by Cypher Ae
Mmmm.....wine

I thought this was going to be a discussion about the alchohol wine.


We could turn it into one...

red or white, and which type do you prefer?

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owl
owl
quote:
Original post by jhavna
quote:
Original post by Cypher Ae
Mmmm.....wine

I thought this was going to be a discussion about the alchohol wine.


We could turn it into one...

red or white, and which type do you prefer?

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I like White, sweet and cold

How about some olives, cheese and home made bread... mmmm
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I like the cheap stuff that you buy off shady street dealers.

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kordova
kordova
Get it in the box or suffer the consequences!
jhavna
jhavna
Red- nice, fruity and rich
White- dry and cold

Boxed - any will do... as long as i can suck the bag dry!

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DakeDesu
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quote:
Original post by wild_pointer
I think even fanatics would have to admit Visual Studio is infintely better than anything available on nix. Not free, but he wouldn''t be asking if he didn''t have it.


I''ve played with Visual Studio. It is not as impressive as everybody makes it out to be. It could be better, if it had native MakeFile and autoconf support, instead of using its own project files that need to be converted to be used anywhere else.

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Original post by ShlomiSteinberg
Just thought that I won''t need to port my program to SDL because it sounded like I could use it under Linux with Wine.


That is quite shaky ground. Some Linux people remember why OS/2 and various other systems that could emulate win 3.x and win32 programs, that did not have enough native programs. Generally the thinking went, if all it does is emulate windows, and does not add to that software library too much, why not just get windows.

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