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[java] Java + IDE = which one do you prefer?

Started by Alpha_ProgDes Dec 18, 2003 at 11:28 PM 33 replies 2.7k views

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Alpha_ProgDes

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Alpha_ProgDes

Dec 18, 2003 at 11:28 PM

i was wondering what other people used and how useful they find their IDE to be. i tried to use JBuilder (Borland) but their registration is so convoluted i just stopped trying and said "bleh". right now i''m using or better to say getting to know JCreator. i randomly picked it but i''m glad i did. it very similar to the Visual C++ IDE so the learning curve is almost nil.

justo

Dec 19, 2003 at 2:54 AM

yeah, i used jcreator for a long time. its great and simple...i still use it for the default java viewer (since it loads quickly) for when i download code just to look at or something.

i use eclipse now, and i dont think i''ll turn back. its sooo full featured, you can basically do anything, right from the ide.

that''s also its downside...it takes me a long time to figure out how to do something new, and i feel like theres all this hidden stuff that could be so useful to me, but i dont even know it exists. small price to pay though.

teamonkey

Dec 19, 2003 at 3:01 AM

Has to be Eclipse. Suddenly everything becomes easier. I even use it for C++ development now.

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BitMaster

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BitMaster

Dec 19, 2003 at 3:11 AM

Eclipse.

Aldacron

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Aldacron

Dec 19, 2003 at 5:57 AM

Eclipse. I can''t imagine using anything else now. The C/C++ plugin still requires a bit too much effort for my liking, but once it''s complete I''ll be using Eclipse for that as well.

Glass_Knife

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Glass_Knife

Dec 19, 2003 at 6:32 AM

I have not used Eclipse. If the learning curve is steep, does anyone know of a good tutorial on getting it up and running???

Glass_Knife
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Ratman

Dec 19, 2003 at 10:38 AM

I like Visual Slick Edit (not free). Eclipse is good too.

CaptainJester

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CaptainJester

Dec 19, 2003 at 1:19 PM

Another vote for Eclipse.

Only drawback is there is no visual editor. I haven''t searched for one yet either, so there may be one out there.

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wicked_wesley

Dec 19, 2003 at 3:48 PM

Never used Eclipse, the most IDEs I tried didn''t support the right Java version, or fullscreen programs. So I''m currently using KWrite (Text editor for KDE (Linux))

KWrite is has some basic functions; code highlighting, auto indent and some more, nothing special. I would like to use an auto complete funtion and an easy class/function/variable browser

I hope Eclipse support that, I''m gonna check it out now.

Wesley

justo

Dec 19, 2003 at 11:31 PM

quote:
Original post by Glass_Knife
I have not used Eclipse. If the learning curve is steep, does anyone know of a good tutorial on getting it up and running???

iirc, theres a huge faq on their website...you might just google it as well.

NuffSaid

Dec 20, 2003 at 5:54 AM

I guess I''m the only one here who uses Netbeans

Alpha_ProgDes

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Alpha_ProgDes

Dec 20, 2003 at 6:12 AM

i''m beginning to think Java doesn''t like me

it seems like the IDE is giving me an exceptinn thread in main error. i''ve got everything where it should be. anyone have an idea of what could be going wrong. and yes i checked the FAQs... didn''t help.

also i wanted to try NetBeans, it seems like a fun name

BlueJ is the suxors. and JBuilder == "bleh".

I checked out the Eclipse website it seems like that thing does everything under the sun. is that a Good Thing (TM)?

Aldacron

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Aldacron

Dec 20, 2003 at 6:17 AM

Eclipse is quite easy to learn - nothing to be afraid of. And there are visual GUI dev tools available as plugins. There are plugins available for nearly everything you can think of - UML modelling, C/C++ devlopment, J2EE unit testing, J2EE integrated environments (which work with JBoss, WebSphere, Tomcat, Resin, and other Servlet/J2EE containers), profilers, and much more.

The buit in refactoring tool is my favorite by far. It gets more advanced with each release, and can save a ton of time.

Themonkster

Dec 20, 2003 at 6:18 AM

quote:
Original post by Alpha_ProgDes
i''m beginning to think Java doesn''t like me
it seems like the IDE is giving me an exceptinn thread in main error.

check your spelling lower case is different to higer case and that causes those sorts of errors

simb

Dec 20, 2003 at 10:38 AM

quote:
Original post by NuffSaid
I guess I''m the only one here who uses Netbeans

I use it too. I''ve tried eclipse and a few others, but I prefer netbeans, despite a few problems it has.

wicked_wesley

Dec 20, 2003 at 1:29 PM

quote:
Original post by simb
I use it too. I've tried eclipse and a few others, but I prefer netbeans, despite a few problems it has.

Yeah I tried NetBeans too, I really like it, has alot of features, except to support my fullscreen app, so I can't use it

Eclipse is a pain to install, there website is useless, can't find anything on it

EDIT
Eclipse is not a pain to install, I guess I need to stop downloading new programs after midnight

[edited by - wicked_wesley on December 20, 2003 2:35:02 PM]

TreizeSG

Dec 20, 2003 at 5:54 PM

I know it''s not technically an IDE, but does anyone use NotePad?

Alpha_ProgDes

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Alpha_ProgDes

Dec 20, 2003 at 7:05 PM

quote:
Original post by TreizeSG
I know it''s not technically an IDE, but does anyone use NotePad?

how would you check it?
with WordPad?

how would you compile it?
with Word?

sorry, just being silly

intrest86

Dec 20, 2003 at 7:08 PM

I use Eclips for everything but GUI design. I didn''t know that there were any plugins for it, so I''ll have to look.

Up to now I have been using NetBeans for my GUIs, and really like it for that so far. I can''t say I like the code editor as much, since it seems to be a bit less intelligent than Eclipse.

Raghar

Dec 20, 2003 at 7:25 PM

quote:
Original post by TreizeSG
I know it''s not technically an IDE, but does anyone use NotePad?

Yes sometimes, but I''m rather using Linux now. So VIM and other linux based editors. I would have to download some aother reasonable software, under Linux, until I would feel confy with an IDE.

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