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Started by Dungeon Master Dec 31, 2003 at 3:54 PM 22 replies 750+ views
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Dungeon Master
Dungeon Master
I was thinking of something... If absolute power corrupts absolutly, then if there is a god wouldn''t he be totally evil?
Sneftel
Sneftel
Yeah! and if you can''t breathe underwater, shouldn''t all the fish drown???


"Sneftel is correct, if rather vulgar." --Flarelocke
Tron3k
Tron3k
quote:
Original post by Sneftel
Yeah! and if you can''t breathe underwater, shouldn''t all the fish drown???


God made man in his own image.
“[The clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly: for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man” - Thomas Jefferson
aftermath
aftermath
quote:
Original post by Sneftel
Yeah! and if you can''t breathe underwater, shouldn''t all the fish drown???


"Sneftel is correct, if rather vulgar." --Flarelocke


Fish extract oxygen from the water (O from the H2O)
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twix
twix
quote:
Original post by aftermath
quote:
Original post by Sneftel
Yeah! and if you can''t breathe underwater, shouldn''t all the fish drown???


"Sneftel is correct, if rather vulgar." --Flarelocke

Fish extract oxygen from the water (O from the H2O)

Er, no. They breathe the O2 that''s dissolved in the water.
zer0wolf
zer0wolf
Methinks aftermath needs to go back to school

goD isn't necessarily evil, it's just corrupted

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[edited by - zer0wolf on December 31, 2003 5:09:50 PM]
Tron3k
Tron3k
I think Sneftel was trying to make a point with his fish comment.
“[The clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly: for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man” - Thomas Jefferson
twix
twix
quote:
Original post by Tron3k
I think Sneftel was trying to make a point with his fish comment.

Nah, it''s probably your imagination.
23yrold3yrold
23yrold3yrold
quote:
Original post by Tron3k
quote:
Original post by Sneftel
Yeah! and if you can''t breathe underwater, shouldn''t all the fish drown???
God made man in his own image.
Originally, yes. Remember the apple?

I don''t see why God would need to be evil. When people get corrupted by power they use it to further their position or amass ill-gotten material goods or something. But you can''t get any better than God''s position. God wants something, He snaps His fingers. There''s no reason why He would turn "evil". But hey, what''s reason and logic against the power of a fortune-cookie cliche?


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bigbadboo
bigbadboo
Evil is part of God, since God is supposed to be everything, good and evil.

It only makes sense, because he created everything.

As for absolute power, ya he is all-powerful. Why would evil corrupt him? Its not greater than him, it a subset of him. It shouldnt affect him at all.

Anyways, that my opinion.
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Dungeon Master
Dungeon Master
People (well most god beleivers anyway) say that when god made man in his own image, it means he looks human. Probably not. He gave us all power. Maybe not creating universe power (or maybe it did humans only use like 1/8 of their brain power maybe we CAN create worlds) because we can create plants (cross polination) we can create organizisms (viruses and backterium, as well as something I read recently that some scientists have created DNA-less human eggs, not to mention clones) and we are steadily working our way to creating our own elements (molecular engineering) so I think all the nay sayers who believe clones and "playing god" is unnatural, I scoff at you. We *are* gods. Smaller, maybe less effecient than what we thing a god should be but we are the ultimate power in the universe, human kind has come long and far from clothless cave dwellers and every day there is something new we discover, invent, or do to make our lives better. And even the bible says that god (and jesus) used tools to create things (dust and bone for humans, water to wine etc). As the saying goes, "we are masters of our own universe" and I am beginning to take this quite literally.
Beer Hunter
Beer Hunter
Power does not corrupt, you crazy people. It just allows corrupt people to show their true selves and get away with it.
temp_ie_cant_thinkof_name
temp_ie_cant_thinkof_name
quote:
Original post by twix
quote:
Original post by aftermath
quote:
Original post by Sneftel
Yeah! and if you can''t breathe underwater, shouldn''t all the fish drown???


"Sneftel is correct, if rather vulgar." --Flarelocke

Fish extract oxygen from the water (O from the H2O)

Er, no. They breathe the O2 that''s dissolved in the water.

PWNED!!1
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Sneftel
Sneftel
quote:
Original post by Tron3k
quote:
Original post by Sneftel
Yeah! and if you can''t breathe underwater, shouldn''t all the fish drown???


God made man in his own image.

What''s your point? "Image" and "Mindset" are not the same thing. Reference Isaiah 55:8.


"Sneftel is correct, if rather vulgar." --Flarelocke
Nervo
Nervo
omglolololol aftermath got pwned!
Well, R2D22U2..
Zorodius
Zorodius
It seems virtually inconceivable that God is anything other than neutral. He is, after all, responsible for both good and evil.

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Tron3k
Tron3k
quote:
Original post by Sneftel
quote:
Original post by Tron3k
quote:
Original post by Sneftel
Yeah! and if you can't breathe underwater, shouldn't all the fish drown???


God made man in his own image.

What's your point? "Image" and "Mindset" are not the same thing. Reference Isaiah 55:8.


I don't care about "Isaiah". And if God's creation became evil, it's his own fault. He's a dumbass

[edited by - Tron3k on December 31, 2003 7:11:46 PM]
“[The clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly: for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man” - Thomas Jefferson
invective
invective
quote:
Original post by Tron3k
God made man in his own image.


"Is man one of God''s blunders? Or is God one of man''s blunders?"
-Friedrich Nietzsche
capn_midnight
capn_midnight
dammit, a bunch of retards.

the proper quote by Lord Acton is as follows:

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It is not a definite statement that power currupts a person. It is a statement that it is EASIER for a person to become corrupted IF they have power. Besides, quotations like this are retarded. There is no impericle evidence to support such a claim. No study was made, no data collected. It could be just as likely that power tends to make one generous. Just because a guy said it in 1887 doesn't make it true. Hell, I could say "DakeDesu is a heterosexual" NOW, and it still won't make it true in 2117.

[edited by - capn_midnight on December 31, 2003 8:13:17 PM]

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