[java] Java IDE's

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Original post by Anonymous Poster
Or go to eclipse.org and download _the_ java ide

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What he said

hehe. i''ve never actually seen or talked to javanerd before, but maybe we could get a sticky on this....

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Original post by Spitfire_mk5
Anything similar to .net2k3 for pure java?
Is there anyway to update J++ so it can use 1.4 libraries (need swing)?

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If you have VS.NET2003, there is an addon package you can download from MS which lets you use VJ# with Swing.

Not that I recommend this, but at least it''s an option.

Is the netbeans ide any good?

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Original post by Kertap
Is the netbeans ide any good?

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I like it, but I haven''t tried anything else.

_the_ IDE is eclipse ... PERIOD!

I have never done Java except helping a friend for 1 semester in school, but I know enough to recognize that when Kent Beck and Eric Gamma are writting books about contributing the the Eclipse project, when IBM is backing it full force, and when the military funded research projects at Vanderbuilt University are using it .. it''s the thing ... at least amoung free IDEs

For non-free IDEs, there is also JBuilder (by Borland).

NetBeans is far behind eclipse in many areas.

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Original post by Kertap
Is the netbeans ide any good?

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I don''t like it, but I was never a fan of drawing your GUI either. I think that eclipse has a plugin to do GUI drawings (if you really want it). I would howeveer recommend eclipse anyway for its ease of use and al the plugins you can get for it....

Call me weird, but I prefer the BlueJ IDE cause of its simplicity.

textpad.

Netbeans can come packaged with the SDK now, and is a doddle to set up. Spitfire asked about an editor with a GUI form editor and a built in debugger... trust some of you to hijack the thread to posture about all this using textpad or coding the gui using just a text editor. OOOooo you''re so old school and it''s SO impressive? What do you want a medal for doing it the hard way?

That''s not what the guy asked is it?

Anyway I digress, Netbeans is a nice easy to use bloated IDE - Eclipse is often preferred but might take a little more to get going the way you want it too - because it supports a few different languages where as Netbeans is just Java.

Although I exclusively use Eclipse, I keep a close eye in IntelliJ IDEA, which looks to be a completely fanstastic IDE. One day I may defect if I ever get the urge to stop making GUIs by hand but I have very little faith in Java as a RAD GUI language. Ten years on, still nowhere near Powerbuilder in 1991...

Cas

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Java IDE''s

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We don''t pluralize with apostrophe''s on these forum''s.

JEdit.

Of course if you don''t mind Eclipse dictature on how you should use source file then Eclipse. Or NetBeans.

XEmac is also an option, and you could create your own, if you don''t like any avilable.

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Is there anyway to update J++ so it can use 1.4 libraries (need swing)?

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Download Java SDK and do your worst. It''s 40 MB so you could have it by dial-up in 2.5 hours.

Well update:

Tried eclipse, didn''t like it, just wasn''t for me, deleted and gone, i dont want to bother screwing around with plugins.

Got Netbeans to install by reinstalling java, getting the gui done there (painfully slow) then will be taking it to old faithful JCreator to do the real coding cuase, well, NetBeens is a ****ing ugly *** IDE too and it doesn''t even seem to have a way of changing the text size!, might take it to .net2k3 and code there being careful to avoid the MS stuff.

Then in 1 month, when i''m done this course im deleting all the java **** off my system and doing things in languages i like!
Java although being cross platform and all is just not for me, so just have to suffer its ideosyncracies (sp?) for a couple more weeks then its gone!

Liking C C++ C# even VB and Object Pascal now better!

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Original post by paulsdsrubbish
trust some of you to hijack the thread to posture about all this using textpad or coding the gui using just a text editor. OOOooo you're so old school and it's SO impressive? What do you want a medal for doing it the hard way?

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Actually, I do code GUIs by hand. It's not so bad once you practice a little, and you don't have all that code bloat some GUI editors can put in. Although, GUI editors can help with designing quick prototypes. You do learn a lot more about the way it works, however, when doing it by hand, and the complexity of that as an issue starts to dwindle.

I wasn't joking when I said textpad. It's simple easy to use -- great for small to medium sized projects. Sure, it doesn't have a built in GUI editor, but I think I read "Preferably something with dragdrop GUI controls and a capible debugger" from OP. You can configure it to do one(or two)-button compilation and running of programs, and it works well and is customizable for all kinds of stuff (Java, C, C++, HTML, PHP, whatever). It may be too "simple" for YOU, but there's a lot of little configuration settings that I like, which is why I suggested it.

Now grow up, kiddie.

EDIT: Check out all these nifty textpad add-ons! Cool.

[edited by - retard on March 2, 2004 8:43:01 PM]

*laughs*
Yeah yeah... here you go, have a gold chocolate coin for doing all the hand coding.

I was just pointing out what the guy asked for - and your answer was pure posturing about YOU not needing them.

I learned back at univesity how to code GUIs by hand in Java - it''s good to know HOW to do it - but if you want to bother with it you shouldn''t have too.

I''m going to take a look at that link you posted in the bottom of yours.

Kiddie? Thanks for that, have been feeling pretty old recently ;-)

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Original post by retard

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Original post by paulsdsrubbish
trust some of you to hijack the thread to posture about all this using textpad or coding the gui using just a text editor. OOOooo you''re so old school and it''s SO impressive? What do you want a medal for doing it the hard way?

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Actually, I do code GUIs by hand. It''s not so bad once you practice a little, and you don''t have all that code bloat some GUI editors can put in. Although, GUI editors can help with designing quick prototypes. You do learn a lot more about the way it works, however, when doing it by hand, and the complexity of that as an issue starts to dwindle.

I wasn''t joking when I said textpad. It''s simple easy to use -- great for small to medium sized projects. Sure, it doesn''t have a built in GUI editor, but I think I read "Preferably something with dragdrop GUI controls and a capible debugger" from OP. You can configure it to do one(or two)-button compilation and running of programs, and it works well and is customizable for all kinds of stuff (Java, C, C++, HTML, PHP, whatever). It may be too "simple" for YOU, but there''s a lot of little configuration settings that I like, which is why I suggested it.

Now grow up, kiddie.

EDIT: Check out all these nifty textpad add-ons! Cool.

[edited by - retard on March 2, 2004 8:43:01 PM]

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