weight questions

i'm about 45 KG(103 lbs).

my secret is not eating. i might have a full meal every 2 days. if you get hungry during that time eat some raw fruit, it won't fatten you up and it tastes great. and only drink coke. no beer.

also, rember to drink lots of water and start your day with a pot of tea.

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I am about 70 KG (I think), and 1.92 M.
I try to eat only high calories food, and no luck in gaining extra weight. I also eat late at night, and basically do everything that you are not supposed to do, if you want to lose weight. But no luck...

I weigh about 115 (lb, that is). The trick I use is to eat everything in sight. I especially like foods full of sugar and fat, and sometimes go through one or two twelve packs of mountain dew in a day. Another neat trick is to eat as many bags of chips as you can in three hours. Wait an hour. Repeat. Cheese also seems to work wonders. Also, don't follow my advice, I just happen to have the metabolism from hell and I'm probably rotting on the inside. As for weight lifting, well, I've fallen off of doing that in recent months, so I can't really say much.

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Man boobs suck. Keep swimming. What kind of distances are you up to? It''s a shame that some people arn''t able to have the benefits of swimming. They simply just don''t know how to swim good enough to go an effective distance.

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Man boobs suck. Keep swimming. What kind of distances are you up to? It''s a shame that some people arn''t able to have the benefits of swimming. They simply just don''t know how to swim good enough to go an effective distance.

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Depends. I generally swim about a mile (1600m) over a single training session but I do it in sprints varying from 100 - 400 metres. I''m actually pretty fit, I just have a bit of a beer belly. My weight is reflective of my height (about 6''1) and my build. Even when I was uber-fit, I was still about 85kgs.

Raduprv, if you want to get fat, beer is your friend
but if you just want to gain weight, you need protein.

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Original post by Cibressus
i''m about 45 KG(103 lbs).

my secret is not eating. i might have a full meal every 2 days. if you get hungry during that time eat some raw fruit, it won''t fatten you up and it tastes great. and only drink coke. no beer.

also, rember to drink lots of water and start your day with a pot of tea.

[edited by - cibressus on May 10, 2004 12:24:46 AM]

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Somehow I don''t see anorexia as better than being overweight...

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Original post by Cibressus
i'm about 45 KG(103 lbs).

my secret is not eating. i might have a full meal every 2 days. if you get hungry during that time eat some raw fruit, it won't fatten you up and it tastes great. and only drink coke. no beer.

also, rember to drink lots of water and start your day with a pot of tea.

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Somehow I don't see anorexia as better than being overweight...

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hell yeah! plus whatever gave you the idea I wanted to lose that much weight? I'm quite happy with the way I am, I just want to tone up a bit for fitness reasons. Plus I'd say my skeleton weighs 45kgs.... I'm not fat, I'm big boned

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1) when people say I can bench-press X lbs, what so they actually mean? To clarify, I can bench 170lbs (bloody gym is in the middle ages too) but I can only manage say 2 reps of that. I can comfortably do 10 reps of 135 lbs. So what would I be considered to be able to bench press?

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People are generally talking about how much they can press at least (and usually only) once. I used to be able to bench press 350 lbs, though I''m no where near that now.

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Original post by ChaosEngine
1) when people say I can bench-press X lbs, what so they actually mean? To clarify, I can bench 170lbs (bloody gym is in the middle ages too) but I can only manage say 2 reps of that. I can comfortably do 10 reps of 135 lbs. So what would I be considered to be able to bench press?

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People are generally talking about how much they can press at least (and usually only) once. I used to be able to bench press 350 lbs, though I''m no where near that now.

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350? holy hell, dude! That''s impressive.

A bench press is one press. You can get a chart that tells you (about) how much your bench press is based on the number of reps of x weight you can do, but I don''t know how accurate those are.

I like pie.

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A bench press is one press. You can get a chart that tells you (about) how much your bench press is based on the number of reps of x weight you can do, but I don''t know how accurate those are.

I like pie.

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sweet, ''cos I reckon I could probably do closer to 200 on one press, but have been concentrating on doing more reps.

If you want to get rid of your man boobs, I recommend doing lower weights at much higher reps. If you can do 135 10 times (just one set or multiple sets?), you might try taking it down to 115. You should do at least 3 sets with any exercise. I like to do sets of 20 with bench. See if you can do 3 sets of 20 at 115. It will be really good for both your pecs and triceps, as well as all your stabalizer muscles. You''ll probably see a faster increase in weight as well.

Another thing to think about is that you don''t want to do the same routine forever. Like say you do 3 sets of 10 for a couple months. Usually your body will get accustomed to the exercise, but you might hit a plateau. What you can do there is switch to 3 sets of 5 (higher weight of course), or even a pyramid set where you do 5 reps, 4 reps, 3, 2, then 1, hopefully close to your max. When you do a pyramid set, it''s good to jump back down to a low weight at the end and go to burn out (until you can''t do any more reps). This makes sure you''re getting everything out of your arms. Oh, don''t ever do this without a spotter.

To get back to the point, butterfly press is also really good for your chest. You can either do this on one of the machines if your gym has them (it''s the thing where people squeeze their arms toward their chest). If they don''t have the machine, you can do it with free weights. Grab some very low weights (this exercise is one where you can screw up your shoulders or chest by trying to do to much weight), and lie down on your back with your feet planted on the floor. Some people lift with their legs in the air, but this is incredibly bad for your back. With your elbows bent, bring the weights down to the sides until your arms are roughly in "bench press" position. Then push the weights back up and in a little until they touch. It should be a curving motion. Very good for the man-boobs.

I used to weight 14 stones (about 90 kg) before I came to university, although I think I''ve lost about half a stone now, due to exercising more and eating less.

Chaos, don''t listen to Zul. Sorry man, but you''re wrong.

First and foremost, your man-boobs are not going to disappear unless you change your diet along with your workout. Upping the reps and lowering the weight is not going to get rid of the fat any quicker covering your pectorals. Spot reduction of fat is impossible; you can build your pecs, but as long as your body fat is high, they''ll be covered by fat.

You cannot effectively lose weight and gain muscle at the same time. It''s impossible. You have to do one or the other. You do not turn fat into muscle; you lose it, and replace it.

Butterfly movements are complete crap, avoid them at all costs. The reason why they suck is because the movement puts the least amount of strain on your pecs at the most critical moment (when your hands come together). Your pecs should be working the most in the middle of the rep, not at the beginning.

There is no standardized response to "how much can you bench". If you can bench 170 lbs two times, than you say that.

10 reps of 135 lbs sounds more like a warmup to me. Increase the weight, perform 8 more reps, increase, perform 6 reps, increase and perform 4 reps. Don''t max out. It''s pointless, unless you''re trying to be some powerlifter, which you''re obviously not.

If you want a rock solid routine for your chest, incorporate the following:

BB Bench press
DB incline press
Weighted dips
Wide grip hammer strength presses
Cable crossovers

By the way, you are not going to make any muscle gains unless you have an equally effective split for all your other muscle groups. Your triceps and delts are just as important in aiding with your bench press. A strong back is absolutely necessary in providing a solid foundation for your chest to lift from.

You need to work everything, hard.

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I''m sure that this as with all things differs from person to person, but I''ve found higher reps to have a quicker effect on burning fat and building muscle. I like to do sets of 20 and go 135, 155, 175. Especially when you''re just getting back into shape and can''t do very many reps at higher weight.

But you are right that weight lifting alone isn''t going to get rid of all the fat. I always combine a weight workout with at least 30 minutes of cardio - either biking, jogging, or jumping rope.

Lat pulldowns are another major exercise that you should look into. Between bench press, shoulder press, and lat pulls, you are exercising ever major muscle group in your arms, back, and shoulders.

Fox News is the Devil.

He weighs 210 lbs and can only bench 170; there''s obviously something wrong with this. High reps, something as ridiculously high as 20, is only going to hurt his progress. And you may think it''s working for you, but 20 reps is ridiculous for anyone on a continuous basis. You''re just fatiguing the muscles, not building strength or mass. You may think it''s helping you because you''re not looking any worse, but you''re not getting any better.

Chaos, figure out what your priority is. If you want to lose weight first, do it - but you''ll lose some muscle mass and strength as you do it. Otherwise, stick with a clean, lean, healthy diet, and hit those weights heavy and hard.

Never go less than 4, never above 10. Pyramid every single exercise for strength gains. Give yourself plateau''s. If you can only bench 170 lbs twice right now, drop your pyramid to finish at 165 for four reps. Once you can hit 165 about eight times, increase the pyramid, and go for 170 four times. Trust me, you will make progress.

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Chaos, don''t listen to Zul. Sorry man, but you''re wrong.

First and foremost, your man-boobs are not going to disappear unless you change your diet along with your workout. Upping the reps and lowering the weight is not going to get rid of the fat any quicker covering your pectorals. Spot reduction of fat is impossible; you can build your pecs, but as long as your body fat is high, they''ll be covered by fat.

You cannot effectively lose weight and gain muscle at the same time. It''s impossible. You have to do one or the other. You do not turn fat into muscle; you lose it, and replace it.

Butterfly movements are complete crap , avoid them at all costs. The reason why they suck is because the movement puts the least amount of strain on your pecs at the most critical moment (when your hands come together). Your pecs should be working the most in the middle of the rep, not at the beginning.

There is no standardized response to "how much can you bench". If you can bench 170 lbs two times, than you say that.

10 reps of 135 lbs sounds more like a warmup to me. Increase the weight, perform 8 more reps, increase, perform 6 reps, increase and perform 4 reps. Don''t max out. It''s pointless, unless you''re trying to be some powerlifter, which you''re obviously not.

If you want a rock solid routine for your chest, incorporate the following:

BB Bench press
DB incline press
Weighted dips
Wide grip hammer strength presses
Cable crossovers

By the way, you are not going to make any muscle gains unless you have an equally effective split for all your other muscle groups. Your triceps and delts are just as important in aiding with your bench press. A strong back is absolutely necessary in providing a solid foundation for your chest to lift from.

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Salsa is RIGHT-ON! Great post.

I would only say that butterfly movements are crap if you do them and expect them to work the same way as most other exercises. An early-rep pulse of a butterfly "squeeze" is quite effective if you know where to pulse.

Also, you can lose weight and gain muscle at the same time if you mean over a course of months. If you mean during a single exercise, then you can''t unless your muscles are atrophied and fat-burning exercises/cardio actually wears down your muscles to the point that they need significant re-building.

man, im a sucker...

although ive only just started, there is no way im going to bench 170lbs, however much that is in real units exactly anyway. i train with 30kg, thats going pretty smoothly now, i think ill raise it to 40. i can do 30 something like 40 times, but i can barely lift 50 four times. i guess 60 is my current roof.

so thats pretty weak compared to you guys, and im no small guy by any means. i guess im not being hard enough on myself

Pfft, if you want to lose weight don''t bother with weights at all. If you need to thin down you need to do almost totally cardiovascular exercises, perferably sports rather than straight exercise. Go play soccer, or tennis, or basketball, or some other sport. Track is ok but way, way more boring than actually playing a game.

Or go with my route and buy DDR.