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I'm pretty sure that's illegal to reverse engineer the executable for a commercial game.

Disassemble... what ? Your post does not make any sense. In addition, disassembling a commercial game is most likely illegal.

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It has already been done on another mod and EA are ok with the Reverse Engineering, they won't however supply us Soure Code so we have to do exe engineering.

Sorry if it does not make sence but im just posting what i was told we needed.

So basically we need someone who can reverse engineer if i am correct.

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Original post by Life_Of_Fate EA are ok with the Reverse Engineering

I don't know where you got that statement from, because right in the EULA for every game you have a clause against reverse engineering.. which they wouldn't have if they didn't care.

EA most definately cares about reverse engineering and IP theft.

Forget it.

You might meet a hot and fiery demise in court.

To reverse engine a binary program is extreamly hard and the fact that it has been done just tell me that someone is extremely crazy. The though of creating a game mod by reverse engineering a executable is EXTREMELY stupid. It would take less time to create the game from sratch unless there is minimal change that is needed.
There is a reason why there aren't commercial games made by assembler. Good luck guys and make sure to post back if you get it of the ground. And if you get it out without getting sued for all your worth by EA I will praise you guys as my god.

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We still need someone who would be willing to work with us, as you say its illigal to do so however, like i have said another mod has done so and posted their Reverse Engineering on "http://www.planetcnc.com" which EA review everyday, if they were so much bothered they would have taken action againsts the other mod team "http://www.renalert.com" by now.

Someone with the experience willing to help i can get some more information on what exactly you need when you accept the proposal.

Fate Industries.

From EA's(the company that made C&C Renegade) Terms of Service(Terms of Service):

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EA Online (“EA Online” or “Service”), is composed of the Electronic Arts website, www.ea.com, and affiliated sites, and offers games, activities and services including POGO, EA SPORTS and EA GAMES products and services.

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You may not translate, reverse-engineer, reverse-compile or decompile, disassemble or make derivative works from EA Online Software. You may not modify EA Online Software or use it in any way not expressly authorized in writing by EA.

the mod you're talking about, that didn't get sued, probably got permission from EA.

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Do not start a topic that condones illegal activities or activities that tend to incite flame wars, such as: drug use, killing, warez, theft, race, nationality, sex, and religion.

Reverse engineering is not strictly forbidden, at least not within the european union.
You can disassemble an application if it's necessary to develop a compatible product, i.e. to determine file formats and network protocols, as long as your product isn't directly competing with the original one (together with half a dozen other expections).
I doubt that it's possible give away this right in a licences agreement, but my book doesn't explicitly say anything about it.

I just wanted to say that the topic itself shouldn't be banned.

all I was saying, really, was that he should get permission from EA , before making the mod(and also, surely there's easier ways to make it than to disassemble the program modify it in assembly, I recommend looking into easier ways), and I agree the topic shouldn't be banned, I was just pointing out that his topic is possibly against the forum rules.

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Original post by Roboguy all I was saying, really, was that he should get permission from EA , before making the mod(and also, surely there's easier ways to make it than to disassemble the program modify it in assembly, I recommend looking into easier ways)

I seriously doubt that they'll get a permission to do so.
The rights to modifying a foreign executable are very limited (only convers bug fixes and can be given away in license agreements).

However, it might be legal patch a running instance of a program (my book seems to think that loading a program to RAM doesn't count as making a copy, so maybe you have some freedom to modify it?).

After taking a look at the game you said had dissasembled a game I was just wondering where you found the information that they dissassembled the game. I could only find that they had mod in the usual maner by changing the actual data. But I can be wrong. I still believe a assembler pro is not what you want. You want someone to figure out the system of your game.

here is information that describes how to legally make mods to the game, without disassembling it, I really don't know how you missed it, it took me about two seconds after going to planetcnc to find it...

heh, first of all there is nothing called "The new asm" that I know of (and I seriously doubt there is something called that), see my previous post, it says how to easily make legal mods for that game, I have no idea why you would want to do it in asm...

"i have been told i need someone who knows "The New ASM"?"

Sounds like someone was just jerking your chain. Probably someone just being an arse in irc or a message board, wherever you asked the question at.

I think you have been given all the information you require.