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Computer Engineer or Programmer??

Started by Sephirox Feb 17, 2005 at 2:35 PM 4 replies 2k views
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Sephirox
Sephirox
hiya everybody! im in a small dillema here...see, im currently at the university of toronto in my first year of computer engineering, but im not having very much fun. the math is not too hard for me, if i sit down and study, but i hate doing it. on the other hand, i can sit down and do the programming labs and sort of enjoy myself (alot more than doing the math). also, the physics involved completely bores me (they're giving us civil engineering stuff! i can understand this, but its at the same level as real civil engineers). so, i looked up the salary difference between a computer programmer and a computer hardware engineer in my area (toronto) and it was very small (~2000CDN). this leaves me questioning whether or not i should be in computer engineering (they accepted me for both comp. science and comp. enineering last spring). so im just looking for some advice on what to do. please be specific with things like $$ since thats basically what im in uni for anyways. basically i need to know how much of a hit i'd be taking $$ wise if i switched to comp. science (which i think i'd have more fun in). btw, i looked at the 3rd and 4th year courses, they are *very* similar if i take a more software oriented approach to computer engineering as opposed to a more electrical engineering approach to comp. eng. (computer engineering at u of t is identical to electrical engineering until 3rd year, when we get options about what to specify in, and im fairly sure i'd go the software route). thx in advance for any advice
Conner McCloud
Conner McCloud
Don't pick your career path based on money. If you think you'll enjoy the programming degree more, switch. The average person has like 3.4 careers in his lifetime, so if you graduate and decide you would be happier somewhere else, its not the end of the world. But why doom yourself to being miserable right off the bat just for a few extra dollars?

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Original post by Sephirox
(they're giving us civil engineering stuff! i can understand this, but its at the same level as real civil engineers)

Not its not. If you're in your first year, it's just introductory bull shit that the civils happen to take as well.

CM
Stonicus
Stonicus
I'd say take the engineering. Once out of school, it would be easier to self-teach yourself programming techniques and stay on top of the field than it would be to self-teach yourself engineering.
NamelessTwo
NamelessTwo
Go the electrical engineer's way :) From my experience it is easier to become a programmer (even real computer scientist) than any other sorts of engineer simply because computers are more interesting :) so at the end you could have 2 options:
1. Programmer
2. Electrical Engineer

But I doubt that a programmer can become electrical engineer as easily as an electrical engineer can switch to a programming carreer. After all electical engineers where the first and programmers came the last.



This is just my oppinion!
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Graylien
Graylien
Forget about the money for now. You're in your first year of University, and thus a long ways from earning a paycheck. Your career comes later, and as long as you stick with computer/software/electrical engineering or computer science then you will fine in terms of future employment. Looking up the average salary 3-4 years in advance of your first job is misleading. How much coin you earn will depend on a lot of things, including how well you do in school now.

If the math is a stumbling block then be warned that you'll probably have to do it anyways in computer science. Advanced (i.e. interesting) courses in computer science assume this level of mathematics.

Just to be clear, when you say "computer programmer" you are referring to computer science, correct? Because if you're only interested in programming, then be warned that not all programs emphasize this; some are more theoretical in nature.
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Gavinl
Gavinl
I think you should switch your major to physics, thats what I did :P
I'm at wilfrid laurier university
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