$2000 +

more then possible.

Its nice to finally meet someone who has a real passion for programming, and isn't just in it for the money.

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Original post by valla2 ....................Well... I was wondering if companies give their programmers more than $2000 per month? Do they ( well, good componies ) give $2000 as a starting salary and they can raise it to $3000-4000, or is this just impossible? And does microsoft give good money to their empoyees? thanks........

in finland 3000$ is minimum

What is the point of this post? I mean, are you actually looking at salary ranges? If so, get a Gamasutra account and go to:
http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20040211/olsen_01.shtml

-Greg

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Original post by valla2 Do they ( well, good componies ) give $2000 as a starting salary and they can raise it to $3000-4000, or is this just impossible? And does microsoft give good money to their empoyees?

Yeah, Microsoft gives good money :D

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Original post by Jingo Its nice to finally meet someone who has a real passion for programming, and isn't just in it for the money.

It's awesome to love something that happens to pay well :-)

Ok thanks guys that sounds encouraging :D

[qoute]What is the point of this post? I mean, are you actually looking at salary ranges?[/quote]
Well.. yeah and thanks for the link.
It's always good to know how much you can get from your job, because ok we love programming, but without money we will die, isn't it? But of course you have to be good to get money...

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Original post by mutex Quote: Original post by valla2 Do they ( well, good componies ) give $2000 as a starting salary and they can raise it to $3000-4000, or is this just impossible? And does microsoft give good money to their empoyees? Yeah, Microsoft gives good money :D Quote: Original post by Jingo Its nice to finally meet someone who has a real passion for programming, and isn't just in it for the money. It's awesome to love something that happens to pay well :-)

heh.. i thought it didn't pay well, actually, and then i said "hey, what do the folks at gamedev have to say about this?" and i made the thread!

I make around $3,000 a month after taxes, starting pay for an entry level position at a small software company in the Bay Area. But there is more than just pay when considering a job. You can have a lower salary but have excellent benefits: medical, dental, vision, 401K, paid time off etc. etc. Plus a lot of it depends on what kind of programming you are doing, the area that you live in, and how much money the company can afford to pay someone to do the job.

you can happily live on a lot less than you do now.

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Original post by Anonymous Poster $2000 a month isn't jack shit, no matter where you live. At 160 hours of work a month (4, 40 hour work weeks), that comes to roughly a mere $12.50 an hour. You could get that working graveyard shift at a grocery store stocking, probably. When your rent is $1000 a month, that doesn't leave you much.. especially after you take out payment for your car, utilities... etc. Anyway, I would _hope_ all companies pay their programmers a good deal more than $2000 a month. Otherwise, I better go out and change my frickin'major. ;)

You know nothing. Around here, you can BUY a good house for $1000/mo, which leaves quite a bit for groceries and such. Also, most jobs of the kind you mention (grocery store, fast food, etc) around here pay federal minimum wages ($5 something) to a maximum of $6

I just looked up the labor statistics, and in 2001 the mean hourly wage here was $14.48, while the median was $11.02

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Original post by Anonymous Poster Straight out of Univeristy I'm earning £22,000, thats about $42,000 per annum. However, the exchnage rate is currently $1.9 to 1£, which is unusually high (it's normally nearer 1.5). That's what happens when you get when a government spends more monez than it can afford AND cuts taxes.

And I'll be earning roughly the same when I graduate, but around here it is by no means the usual wage. Most tech jobs around here (the few there are) pay very poorly. You just have to remeber that places have different wage statistics, so you can't make such sweeping generalizations (presuming you're the same AP).

the BLS puts the mean programmer wage at $28.90/hr in the US (2003). more...[pdf 92k]

Uh, I'm still studing, so I don't know how I could earn in a company, but where I live 2000$/month are a pretty nice salary. Where I would like to go working I would get 1500/1600 EUR, and really I don't feel the need of more money. But here in italy we haven't to pay sanity or similar things, because those money are automatically taken from you 'real' salary: what you receive is what you can spend (more or less: you have some taxes to pay...).

As far as I know most interns make anywhere from $12-$21/hour so I would hope that full-time degreed employees would make more than 2G's a month.

To summarize what an interviewer told me: Microsoft is a place where both competition and cooperation are encouraged. People could make a lot more money working elsewhere, but we have a very low "good" attrition rate (as opposed to bad attrition rate, which is people leaving because they suck and don't know what they're doing) because people come work here and end up staying because they love what they're doing.

If you want to make a crapload of cash, get security clearance and work for the government or defense sector, I'd say.