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Started by Nice Coder Mar 18, 2005 at 1:44 AM 60 replies 8.4k views

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Mar 18, 2005 at 1:44 AM

Basically 1h (hydrogen.) is the major unit of time. It is the time taken for the Hydrogen atom to naturaly vibrate once (1/1,420,405,752 th of a second). You can also have dH, cH, kH, mH, tH, pH, eH, zH, and yH. (these are from one tenth of a hydrogen, to one 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th of a hydrogen. Which is just tiny.) Capital leter for the H indicates that it is 1/xth of a h. small h indicates that its x h's. (just simpler for everyday use). These also go the other way (which are simply the same, with capital leters). Dh, Ch, Kh, Mh, Th, Ph, Eh, Zh, and Yh Dh = Decahydrogen Ch = Centahydrogen Kh = KilloChydrogen Mh = Megahydrogen Th = Terrahydrogen Ph = Pentahydrogen Eh = Extohydrogen Zh = Zetahydrogen Yh = Yotahydrogen. Number scales You can also add the together. For eg. 1YYc is 1 * (Y * Y) c. (which is on the large side). Very nifty, isn't it? A system from the very small spans of time (1yyc, which is smaller then anything mesurable (by many trillions apon trillions of orders of magnitudes)) to very large spans of time (1YYc is just huge. And you just add another Y to make it much much bigger) and its metric. (another metric would be the natural resonance of hydrogen, but i don't know much about it, so i don't know if it'd be the better choise) Disusion between Cesium and Hydrogen to be the standered atom, please do. (but PM's would be preferable) 1h = 0.000000000704024183647490608021 seconds. 1dh = 0.00000000704024183647490608021 1ch = 0.0000000704024183647490608021 1kh = 0.0000000704024183647490608021 1mh = 0.0000704024183647490608021 1th = 0.0704024183647490608021 1ph = 7.04024183647490608021 1eh = 7,040.24183647490608021 1zh = 7,040,241.83647490608021 1yh = 7,040,241,836.47490608021 Usage note, 1/x Hydrogens can be represented with a capital H or (formally) with a U as the last letter before the h). You can double up letters, for eg. 1ydh = 70,402,418,364.7490608021 secs. Ie 10x 1yh. And you can continue this indefinatly. 1yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyh is valid, tho very unusual. 1yyh = 704,024,183,647,490,608,021,000,000,000,000,000,000 seconds. Which is a very long time. (about 22,308,813,968,167,892,902,263,690,122,459 years.) 1yyuh is very very small, about 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000704024183647490608021 of a second. (smaller then the smallest normal unit, by a massive amount). Scientific notation is also employed (a variation, because the units indicate the powers): Eg. it has been 1.84Th. Or 1.72dTh (note, only the last (or second last, for parts of a hydrogen) letter(s) are capitalised). It always has a single ones digit, followed by a decimal point (if there are a fraction), and at most two digits. From, Nice coder [Edited by - Nice Coder on March 19, 2005 5:23:34 PM]

jbadams

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jbadams

Mar 18, 2005 at 1:47 AM

And pray tell, why is this better than the currently used systems? Too much math involved for common usage if you ask me.

Another of your creations? (I saw your processor thread).

jfclavette

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jfclavette

Mar 18, 2005 at 1:47 AM

That's interesting. Ok.

Nice Coder

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Nice Coder

Mar 18, 2005 at 1:58 AM

I actually invent and reinvent anything i can get my hands on or think about. (major reson on why people want me around... :)

This would be much easier, because instead of doing months, years, ect. You would simply have a timer which is counting up in Mc. (then Tc, Pc, ect.)

Much simpler for kids, simpler on computers, simpler on anybody. (its like saying why do we have the metric system for weights and measures, its just easier on people using it.)

I thought it was interesting, anyway..... (still looking for the resonant frequency of hydrogen. Seeing as it is the most common thing in the universe, might as well use it for a standered, eh?)

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Nice Coder

Mar 18, 2005 at 2:03 AM

Ok, hydrogen is at 1,420,405,752 hz.
Here

Updated post, and added lots of info.

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[Edited by - Nice Coder on March 18, 2005 2:03:17 AM]

terminate

Mar 18, 2005 at 2:59 AM

We already have atomic clocks to keep the official time, some even use hydrogen, you are just changing the way its represented. I don't see any advantage to your way. It doesn't offer anything new or special, not to mention getting people to switch would be impossible. (Heck, here in the US we still use a variaton of British Imperial Units fpr everyday measurements).

Link!

jfclavette

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jfclavette

Mar 18, 2005 at 3:22 AM

Days, Months and years, tough they are approximations, at least have the merit of letting you know somewhat precisely what time it using concrete observations.
"The sun is high, it must be around noon." or "Damn I hate coma, It's chilly, it must be january or february."

Your system doesn't add anything, not even ease of computation except for small scales that are unuseful in most of everyday life (less than a second). And I still see no 'calendar'. You can say that 1yh has passed, but you still need some arbitrary point of reference in the past or the future every one can agree on, just like the Epoch is used in computers or year 0 in the everyday calendar.

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Nice Coder

Mar 18, 2005 at 3:42 AM

Ok, how about this:

Full date = Time in hydrogens since the big bang.

Now, this is a large number (but still well below the yyh range), and it doesn't change much. (ie. in scientific notation, it will be a long time before you see a change).

Partial date = Time in hydrogens since the start of the last epoc.

The epoc (in this egsample) is one particular set of numbers that your using. You filter the rest out.

For eg. "Its geting worm, it must be 6eh already!" that would give you an epoc of 7K seconds. (an eh would be about 2 hours).

This stops you from needing to put out a massive number, for the time.

(For eg. Your watch would probably have a dth hand, a ph hand and an eh hand. (the zh would probably be used as a 'date' of sorts).

Consider this: What is 200mt after 70mt? 270mt of cource!
What is 3 min 20 seconds, after one minute ten seconds?
That is much harder. (it would also be much easier for kids to learn, without am/pm or anything like that).

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Nice Coder

Mar 18, 2005 at 4:01 AM

1h = 0.000000000704024183647490608021 seconds.
1dh = 0.00000000704024183647490608021
1ch = 0.0000000704024183647490608021
1kh = 0.0000000704024183647490608021
1mh = 0.0000704024183647490608021
1th = 0.0704024183647490608021
1ph = 7.04024183647490608021
1eh = 7,040.24183647490608021 = 1hr 57 mins 20 secs
1zh = 7,040,241.83647490608021 aprox = 81 days (24h)
1yh = 7,040,241,836.47490608021 aprox = 223 years.

Which would make one 'month' approximatly equal to 81 days in this calander.
A year = 223 years, and an hour, nearly 2 hours.

This isn't counting the deh, ceh, ect. Which would be commonly used. (because there common timescales).

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furby100

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furby100

Mar 18, 2005 at 6:52 AM

Quote:
Original post by Nice Coder
Full date = Time in hydrogens since the big bang.

Simply ludicrous, as the time since the beginning of the universe is not known accurately enough.

kSquared

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kSquared

Mar 18, 2005 at 7:26 AM

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Original post by Nice Coder
(incoherent rambling)

This thread is crazy.

_{[Edited by kSquared on 2.6875 * 10²⁷ h]}

Luckless

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Luckless

Mar 18, 2005 at 7:28 AM

This is like uisng unix time in everyday use.

Not going to happen.

Saying next monday is so much nicer than saying at XXXXXXXX time.

MDI

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MDI

Mar 18, 2005 at 7:35 AM

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Much simpler for kids

???

dagarach

Mar 18, 2005 at 8:10 AM

Post-Revolutionary France tried to introduce decimal time, it didn't work. Current time units are all about orbits, and numbers like 60 and 12 go nicely.

One flaw with your calendar is that regular recurrence, which is important in our lives, is not easily represented.

Luckless

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Luckless

Mar 18, 2005 at 8:28 AM

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Original post by MDI
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Much simpler for kids

???

Yes, looks like someone is forgetting how lazy kids are these days.

I know, I've been so lazy as a kid, I still haven't gotten much passed the age of 16, which I arrived at around when I was actually only 10, but now I'm 19,...

See how lazy kids are? Some of us can't even be bothered to live a normal life, we just skip to a spot that works for us, and stay there.

Dmytry

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Dmytry

Mar 18, 2005 at 8:31 AM

Excuse me.... what time is now? (edit: got something like 1.12058423321864E+0027 h */ 2 times.)

dorix

Mar 18, 2005 at 10:12 AM

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Original post by kSquared
_{[Edited by kSquared on 2.6875 * 10²⁷ h]}

It burns my eyes!!

Nice Coder

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Nice Coder

Mar 18, 2005 at 9:41 PM

It is less then 1yyh. (in the actual time)

Also, can you sugest a better starting point to start a clock?
Birth of a magical figure? (as is the current calinder). That won't do.

The beginning of the universe is a good place to start.
Maybe an assumtion on the beginning of the universe? A mathematical rounding, so that it is easier to calculate?

Really, dates should be simple. The only reson we have these, are because we have used them too often...

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owl

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owl

Mar 18, 2005 at 9:45 PM

lol

I needed to waste some of my hydrogen

Nice Coder

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Nice Coder

Mar 18, 2005 at 9:46 PM

Also, you don't need to use the entire date all the time.

You simply use a small amount, for the tiems to be distinguishable. (for eg. When someone asks you for the time, you don't say "Its the fourtenth of may, 2005AD, 12:34:16 and 0.282957328597193857192657821365923856192375612938756192365 seconds.)

Do you?

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