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Started by firahs Nov 14, 2000 at 6:53 PM 31 replies 4k views
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firahs
firahs
http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article785.asp This was an article that Geoff Howland wrote for GDNet a while back. It's no longer here, and instead a description of why it was removed is. I'd just like to say that I have lost a LOT of respect for a person that staffs this site.
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It has come to my attention that this article sucks ass. Had I realized this blight on the community was here, be assured I would have removed it long ago. If you REALLY want information on AI, I suggest the following book: Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach ISBN 0-13-103805-2
*EDITED* Im really sorry about labelling the whole staff, i did not know it was only done by one of them without the consent of the other's. So i apologize to those not involved, it was a conclusion i came to, too quickly. Edited by - firahs on 11/16/00 2:16:29 PM
Gaiiden
Gaiiden
Good little angel:

You guys are mean and inconsiderate! How dare you put down such a wonderful awell-known author! You should be ashamed!

Bad ass devil:

HAHHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! That''s awesome!! Best I''ve seen so far! Keep up the good work!

Gotta love split personalities......

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firahs
firahs
Youre a complete fool, why havent you been naturally selected yet?

TITAN
TITAN
its wrong! they act like 2 yr olds
hes gone! they should drop it... he doesnt talk about them..
geoff is a much better person IMO
they say hes a jerk.. thats not the way i see it

Edited by - titan on November 14, 2000 8:11:24 PM
TITAN
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Graylien
Graylien
I could be mistaken, but has the article not been relocated?

Edited by - Graylien on November 14, 2000 8:14:49 PM
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Gaiiden
Gaiiden
quote:

Youre a complete fool, why havent you been naturally selected yet?


I am not prone to Darwinian Evolution. MUAAAHAAAHA

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Edited by - Gaiiden on November 14, 2000 8:15:02 PM
Drew Sikora
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A. Buza
A. Buza
Hmm.. I wonder if the removal/relocation has anything to do with somethingawful.com''s feature on that particular piece?

firahs
firahs
Of course it did. But the manner they went about removing the article is, lets just say, alot less than I expected from the Staff. Even if it was a bad article, just remove it! You dont insult the author, it is a f-ing donation which you can post on your site with your own discretion. Maybe its just a way to cover up poor site management, and instead blame the quailty of the sites content on the author. Thats really f-ing weak.

Gaiiden
Gaiiden
I coulda sworn I saw a post here - musta gotten deleted by the guy. Ah well, whoever he was - I agree with him. It''s probably just some inside joke or something. I sure wouldn''t like that done to me (I''m being serious now, btw ). The jury calls Myopic Rhino to the stand.....

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Graylien
Graylien
quote:
Original post by Gaiiden
I coulda sworn I saw a post here - musta gotten deleted by the guy. Ah well, whoever he was - I agree with him. It''s probably just some inside joke or something. I sure wouldn''t like that done to me (I''m being serious now, btw ).



LOL! Guess I''m not as quick as I thought...

You''re not going crazy...that was me. When I edited my post to fix a typo I also deleted the rest of the post. All I had said was that the article was relocated and, perhaps , as part of an inside joke that no one was supposed to see, the page firahs linked to was put there. It''s probably not the only one. Doesn''t make it right, doesn''t mean I care .

All I wanted to say was that the article was not trashed, just relocated.

I really think firahs is opening up a whole other can of worms that is none of my business (or anyone elses'' business, as firahs has pointed out before).

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Nebula
Nebula
If you really didn't want it there it could have been politely removed..that is a bit rediculous. Especially if someone went to all that time writing that exclusively for this site. I don't care how much an article sucks ass there is always information that can be picked out of it. Plus something "sucking ass" is also sometimes a matter of opinion.

Goes to show that this site isn't too professional after all.

I also went to somethingawful.com and found these degrading quotes

"Posting an article from Mr. Howland regarding a game's AI is the equivalent of allowing Hitler to record his qualifications for "Humanitarian of the Year." "

"Hell, I'd be surprised if any of them could READ a book on AI, much less write one. "

"because mentioning the phrase "Lupine Games" evokes the same response in most people as casually mentioning you just caught their grandmother inserting various Christmas ornaments into her anal cavity. "

That worthless garbage article on the main page is just full of degrading trash against a FREE tutorial!!


somethingawful.com just went on my shitlist of least favorite websites. I have an idea, how about putting themselves on somethingawful.com they certainly are awful, and their reviews are complete crap. FFVIII wasn't that bad of a game. Not to mention they use the "F" word in their reviews..wow I'm really gonna believe their reviews now.

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Edited by - Nebula on November 14, 2000 8:50:13 PM
TITAN
TITAN
that garbage article was the topic of #gamedev for a while
they seemed to have great fun laughing at geoff
i dont think this was meant as a joke, they probly just forgot to remove it from the other location
TITAN
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Gaiiden
Gaiiden
Ahhhh... gotcha there Graylien. Thanks for confirming the fact that my eyesight is indeed A-OK I also understand what you mean now. Yeah, it would be quite easy for somebody to do that I guess. If not a member of the GDNet staff (hope not) then someone coulda probably hacked in and put it up. Either way, it''s in bad taste - I thought that was an OK article now that I think about it (Ow, that hurts...)

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Myopic Rhino
Myopic Rhino
Okay, I agree with everything that has been said here criticizing that message. I didn''t do it, and I don''t condone that kind of behaviour. We know who is responsible, and we''re dealing with it internally. This action did not represent the policies of GameDev.net in any way.

I''d like to issue a public apology to Geoff that this sort of thing happened. It was completely unprofessional, and well below the high standards we set for ourselves. The article has been restored to it''s original format for now.

Lowtax is entitled to his opinion about Geoff''s game (Geoff will freely admit that it''s not a great game, but given the circumstances under which he had to complete it, it''s still quite an accomplishment), but I have NEVER thought there was anything wrong or innacurate about Geoff''s articles. They answer some of the most commonly asked questions here, and it would be a shame to remove them.
TANSTAAFL
TANSTAAFL
just a brief note:

it was me. I did it. no other staff members were involved, and in fact, none of them were aware of it until they learned just like you did.

the article has been restored to its original state.
Get off my lawn!
khawk
The article has been returned to its original status. In regards to who did it, yes, someone on the staff did it, and it''s been taken care of. It''s not something that will happen again.

Official staff statement: We don''t care about Geoff anymore. Anything with him is over and done with.

The mention of SA in the chat room from my side of things was because SA was mentioning an article that is on this site. Bad press it may be, but it''s press.

Kevin
Admin for GameDev.net.
Paul Cunningham
Paul Cunningham
Yeah, i just had a look at somethingawful.com and i''ve got to say that it would have to be the most least appealing websites i''ve seen. It''s a pity that i had to give them a hit for going there. There only funny thing there is the fact that some losers have made being a loser a professional talent. hmmph

One more time for the dumbies
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Gaiiden
Gaiiden
I really haven''t realized anything that has made this site worse, I still like it as much as I did when I first saw it. As for that somethingawful.com crap - they are just a bunch of losers with no life. I can''t beleive they did that stuff. Total losers with no life, I say again.

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Mithrandir
Mithrandir
geez you guys, lighten up. Somethingawful.com is a JOKE. its MEANT to be FUNNY.

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