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Started by nes8bit Nov 25, 2000 at 10:04 PM 14 replies 550+ views

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Nov 25, 2000 at 10:04 PM

Ok, I''m on a budget and I need a high end processor. Is it worth getting the Pentium 4? What about the Athlon or the Duron? Details...need details. Please, make your posts short. I have a short attention span. --------------------------- Tell your friends. Tell your family. Tell your...don''t tell your family. The GDTalker

arsenius

Nov 25, 2000 at 10:19 PM

if you're on a budget, go duron
latest reviews @ tom's hardware say the p4 sucks fatty, and durons are ass cheap, and pretty good, they beat out the celeron

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Edited by - arsenius on November 25, 2000 11:26:41 PM

Joviex

Nov 25, 2000 at 10:47 PM

quote:
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Ok, I''m on a budget and I need a high end processor. Is it worth getting the Pentium 4? What about the Athlon or the Duron? Details...need details. Please, make your posts short. I have a short attention span.

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Yeah buddy, the Duron is a fricking kick ass chip. I have 486, p1-p3''s, Athlon, Cyrix shit, and this Duron sitting in dis here machine.

It is rock solid, and the only probs I had were with the Asus A7V board. A quick bios upgrade fixed that, and at 750MHZ for $200 (board and chip), that is the best deal I have ever gotten. My old celeron just burnt the hell up. Definately a good buy.

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Nov 26, 2000 at 12:53 AM

yeah, but I''m worried about the 64k cache.

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JonnyQuest

Nov 26, 2000 at 1:58 AM

If you don''t like the cache, go get a Thunderbird (like I did)
They''re more expensive though...

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AcRiD_aCiD

Nov 26, 2000 at 2:03 AM

No...don''t choose Duron, choose Moron..

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Nov 26, 2000 at 3:13 PM

celron?

hah!
ok, I may get a T-Bird. What about for high end low cost servers? Is a duron worth it? I''m expecting a massive CPU/Network/Memory load.

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Graylien

Nov 26, 2000 at 3:27 PM

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What about for high end low cost servers?

No such thing

quote:
Original post by nes8bit
I''m expecting a massive CPU/Network/Memory load.

Running a web server? Cache hits are important when doing repetitive things, like fetching/loading data. Seriously though, you''d have to have a pretty good reason not to go Duron and use the money you save on something else that will be more of a bottleneck (e.g. the HDD). I doubt that an 800MHz Duron will slow you down any, but then again I don''t know what type of server this machine is supposed to be.

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Nov 27, 2000 at 5:02 PM

Yeah. Webserver, that''s about right. Anyway, I don''t think I''ll be getting a P3 Xeon. That''s just pushing it.

I may get the T-Bird if it''s worth it. What do you think?

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Graylien

Nov 27, 2000 at 5:08 PM

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I may get the T-Bird if it''s worth it. What do you think?

I''ve got a T-Bird and it smokes. It''s well worth it, but put some real thought into the Duron: It would really suck if the extra money spent on a T-Bird could have been spent on something else that is really slowing down your machine. For most applications you''ll be looking at, maybe, a 5%-10% difference between the Duron and T-Bird. Even then, that''s not for every application. It''s most likely that you''ll be bottlenecked by something else...and there will be no difference at all between the two chips.

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Nov 27, 2000 at 9:20 PM

Well I''ve made up my mind on the duron. I''m not gonna get it. Anyway, it''s just a battle between the Athlon and the P3/P4. I don''t think the P3 is even a factor since it has as much L2 cache as the Athlon.

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Nov 27, 2000 at 9:21 PM

...or maybe a cyrix...

lol

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terminate

Nov 27, 2000 at 9:37 PM

well i just ordered my Tbird
for $1300 i got

800Mhz Tbird
256MB RAM
Asus MB
8x4x32 Plextro CD-RW
Full-Tower Case
modem
sound
Geforce2 Video
17" Monitor

and everything else that i didnt mention but u need on a computer

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Graylien

Nov 27, 2000 at 11:27 PM

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Anyway, it''s just a battle between the Athlon and the P3/P4.

Get the T-Bird. P4 is not a factor and won''t be until customized software (SSE2 support) starts appearing. By then Athlons will all be on DDR mainboards (don''t forget, the arrival of DDR mainboards gives you a great upgrade path if you go Athlon).

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Nov 28, 2000 at 12:57 AM

Good point. Is DDR a practical idea for a webserver? I was considering that, but it sounds a like it''s a little too much

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Graylien

Nov 28, 2000 at 1:35 PM

If nothing else, DDR will extend the lifetime of the machine. It''s very hard to say that something is "overkill" for a server. Servers are, almost by definition, machines that use money rather than electricity to power them. More money = better server.

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