Beginner: (n)

Moved to the Lounge.

Somebody that doesn't know any programming languages that could be used to make a game. A few would be c, c++, java, python.

if (current_user == "STUPID NOOB VROK")
{
Console.Writeline("You are tooo stupid, get out of here you NOOB!!");
}
else
{
Console.Writeline("OMFG! You are the greatest programmer EVA!");
}


I think I have defined what a beginner is O__O

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Original post by vrok137 if (current_user == "STUPID NOOB VROK") { Console.Writeline("You are tooo stupid, get out of here you NOOB!!"); } else { Console.Writeline("OMFG! You are the greatest programmer EVA!"); } I think I have defined what a beginner is O__O

u r cuet

a/s/l?

omg pics :)?

someone who has just begun something?

Smoeone who makes threads like these (jk jk jk jk)

Wikipedia to the rescue!

Apparently a Beginner is a member of a german rap group from Hamburg.

I'm a total programming n00b. . . anyone want to help me write an MMORPG?

For the beginner forum? Anyone who wants their question answered within an hour rather than a day. It is the best forum to post in outside of the lounge [smile].

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Original post by smart_idiot I'm a total programming n00b. . . anyone want to help me write an MMORPG?

OMFG!!1!one

I ttallly am intersted! Du u need a wrighter? I dont gnow codeing (im learning so meybe i can help u with that tu) but I make sotries.

;)

Seriously, beginners can be anyone who is unfamiliar with the basic syntax of a language and several common datastructures and needs to learn more before they can tackle a serious project.

I think Ill keep posting in the beginner until I know the complete c++ syntax stuff. Well Im okay at c++, but for example I just had a problem with a destructor for a class I had a vektor for and didn't knew that I needed a copy constructor. Thats a beginners problem I think. Though if its a opengl specific problem I sometimes post there...
I think if you know the complete syntax of a powerfull language you can be sure that you arent a beginner anymore ;)

Someone who uses goto's in there code, replacing functions. [wink]

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Original post by Will F Wikipedia to the rescue! Apparently a Beginner is a member of a german rap group from Hamburg.

Yeah, Absolute Beginner! They rock! [lol]

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Original post by philipptr I think if you know the complete syntax of a powerfull language you can be sure that you arent a beginner anymore ;)

If you know C++ completely, I will sacrifice white hens at an altar I'll build for you.

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Original post by GDKnight Someone who uses goto's in there code, replacing functions. [wink]

So before you know gotos you are not a beginner? I knew I should never have learned them.

I think the definition of beginner is relative, in my school you are a beginner in computing if you are not sure how to start up IE (or "The Internet" as most people call it), here you are a beginner in computing if you don't know how to sniff encrypted packages from a game and decrypt them, so there is a big difference. You can also be a beginner in some subjects (for example, I'm definatly a beginner in math), so saying you are not a beginner when in programming doesn't mean you are not a beginner in C++ programming, you could easily have learned programming from another language.

I would say when you understands a application you are not a beginner. You can easily not be a beginner in C++, but not understand this (Yes, I know ugly code, I just typed it in. I also do know there is smarter ways to calculate Fibonacci numbers, but this is just an example):

Because you are still a beginner in template meta-programming (that is the name right?). I would go as far as saying, if you understand a hello world example in C++ you are not what I would call a beginner. Of course understanding it is of course not saying that #include<iostream> have to be there for some reason, main is just the entry point, and std::cout is just a way to output.

If you understands this example:

You would be able to say the first line tells the preprocessor to include the contents of the iostream file, which is used for "Input/Output STREAMs", in this example for std::cout (also all the base classes of cout like std::basic_ostream) and std::endl.

int main is a function declaration, it returns an int. main is special to C++ (also C, but we are not talking about that here) because that is the function which the OS calls to start the application.

std::cout is basically a std::basic_ostream<char> which points at a console, the << is an operator and is the way std::cout gets input. std::endl is most likely a struct or function, it is what is called a manipulator, and triggers some special behavior a text string most likely couldn't, in the example it gives us a newline. return 0, returns 0 which is used to indicate the application didn't fail.

If know all that about a C++ application I would say there is a good chance you are not a beginner.

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Original post by Konfusius Quote: Original post by philipptr I think if you know the complete syntax of a powerfull language you can be sure that you arent a beginner anymore ;) If you know C++ completely, I will sacrifice white hens at an altar I'll build for you.

Learning the syntax of C++ isn't tricky. It's applying that syntax in the correct fashion that's so damn hard. Algorithms and patterns and such. My code has so much such it's not funny.

A beginner is clearly someone who hasn't yet started (or who just commenced starting), ergo, a beginner is a non-starter (or a somewhat-starter). Bam.

My rule of thumb is:
If the question is an Explain The Fine Manual question to a Read The Fine Manual question, I usually post it in beginners.

If my question is more complicated, I post it in it's correct place.