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installing debian

Started by Funkymunky Jan 25, 2006 at 2:51 AM 7 replies 800+ views
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Funkymunky
Funkymunky
So I recently built this new system and now i want to put debian on the old one and use its tv-out card to have a tv as a monitor. So i downloaded the dvd set of install discs, because the cd version is something like 9 discs and the dvd version is only 2. That's two 4 gig iso files that i had to download over night. The machine that i am planning to install this on is my p4 1.8 ghz dell with 256 megs of ram and a geforce fx 5200. I got the appropriate debain distribution. The thing is, i cannibalized this one's old harddrive into the new one, and for the old one i found a 4 gig harddrive from an old p2. It has windows 98 on it, and although the bios complains about how the harddisk is not the same, it still boots up in a minimal mode of windows 98 (doesnt detect graphics card so its 16 bit, network card so there's no internet, usb stick since the driver needs updating, or cd rom drive so i can't transfer files to it that way). I tried booting to this computer directly off the dvd, and it does have a dvd rom drive. I made sure to check in bios, and have even tried setting the cdrom as the only boot option, and yet it won't boot from the dvd. I looked around and found that this can be fixed by booting from a floppy with bootable cd loader (this page was help) Great, my new system doesn't have the floppy drive hooked up (cable wouldn't reach) I remember my old computer can't get files from cd, usb stick, or internet, so i can't put the bootloader and fdimage on it to make the boot floppy. Then I remember that i have a knoppix cd! So i boot up knoppix on the old computer, and download the 2 programs i need to use (wow microsoft, an operating system that loads from a cd is vastly superior to one of yours...sorry, just pissed about the $300 i spent on xp) Then i try to fdimage the file onto the floppy. It won't work, but the disc makes sounds like it's working. I copy the two files (fdimage.exe and the floppy image file) directly to the disc, then reboot in windows 98. Windows 98 has an error trying to move the files off of the floppy. I boot back into knoppix, format the disc for DOS, then try to access it. Now it is inaccesible. It is inaccesible in windows 98 too. I break that little plastic pest into about 6 pieces by winging it at the wall. Next, I run out to the local comp store and get a cable to connect my new computers floppy drive. I hook it up, boot up, and insert a new disc, which it promptly tells me it cannot access. This is a brand new pack of floppies, btw. SO THEN I get extremely frustrated. The old comp won't boot off of the dvd, yet it will boot off the knoppix cd. I can't get a floppy disc made to make it boot from the debian disc. What the hell should i do?!?!
Funkymunky
Funkymunky
The old one is a Dell Dimension 8100. The Debian DVD boots properly in my new system, and the old one boots off of CD, just not DVD. I upgraded the BIOS after rambling at outsourced dell tech support and it didn't change a thing except the version #. I've gotten the floppies to work (about half were bad out of the box...i'd forgotten why i used to despise that form of media). Bootable CD loader recognizes the drive and then says that it can't boot from the cd. The floppies included on the debian install dvd (boot.img, root.img, cd-drivers.img, net-drivers.img, and yes i rawwrote them properly) do not start up the installation. I tried a DOS boot (for when I updated the bios) and it can't switch to the CD drive. I am getting a little frustrated. [rolleyes]
nagromo
nagromo
It sounds like the computer can't boot from floppy or DVD but can boot from CD. I don't know how to change that; it might be a problem with the MoBo or BIOS that you can't fix. If so, I'd suggest getting the NetInstaller CD (~100 MB). It just installs a base system and gets the rest from the internet. If you're able to get the packages from the DVD to your hard drive, you wouldn't even have to download anything besides the NetInstaller CD; you can tell it to use package files you already have on your hard drive. You'd have to keep the directory structure the same as in an actual repository, though. (I think it should already be the right way on the DVD, but I'm not sure.)

If that gets too complicated, you could use some more bandwidth and either get a full CD set or use the NetInstaller CD, which only downloads the packages you want installed. (The NetInstaller will use less bandwidth unless you install more than once or install every single package.)
Sander
Sander
If you have a decent internet connection, get the netinstaller CD. I also recommend you use Debian testing instead of Debian Sarge. Despite the name it's quite stable and has newer versions of software than Sarge.
leiavoia
leiavoia
I second the net-install version. You just need a net connection and that's not asking too much. You obvously have one. It starts off a single CD, so you should be able to boot it up and get it going easily.
Raduprv
Raduprv
Is there any specific reason why you want Debian? Mepis, for example, is Debian based, but MUCH, MUCH more user friendlier than Debian, and the instalation is very easy.
Funkymunky
Funkymunky
Net installed. Thanks.

and i'm looking into Mepis now, Debian has turned out to be a pretty powerful/complex beast, and i really just want to hook this thing's tvout port to a tv and play quake on my bigscreen. What distribution do you think would be best for that?
nagromo
nagromo
Yeah, NVidia's Linux drivers are far, far easier and better than ATI's. With my laptop (using a funky PCI-E variant and a nVidia Go card) I got the drivers working by copying and pasting a few lines from a webpage to the terminal, and my DVI and S-Video ports worked. (I had to add a new line to my config file to tell it about the resolution and frequencies, but I got that from google.) I still haven't gotten ATI's drivers working on my desktop, which uses standard AGP. I've heard they've improved with newer versions, though.

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