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mall of the future (worldbuilding ideas wanted)

Started by February 17, 2001 12:09 PM
33 comments, last by sunandshadow 23 years, 9 months ago
quote: Original post by sunandshadow

I agree with Wavinator: the physical is just too precarious. I''m the type of person who detests physical exertion (tickle fights excepted ) and if I have to be uncomfortable to accomplish something that ruins, NOT enhances, whatever satisfaction I might have got out of accomplishing it.


Being uncomfortable provides the contrast to comfort. Life is both. Darkness makes lightness brighter. Coldness makes warmth all the better. Your society is diluting all that is good. In more ways than one. In fact, your society is all about dilution. The very notion of savouring something is lost. Granted, your society still allows some things to be savoured, like the companionship of a friend for the evening, or the design process of a new object. But you have reduced the spectrum of life''s offerings, it seems.

quote: Original post by sunandshadow

As for the great outdoors resulting in powerful memories, I''ll agree to that: I have a great memory of, going out to lake Erie in the middle of winter and being amazed by how desolate and alien the ice-dunes and frozen lake looked. But the reason I enjoyed this experience was because I was bundled from head to foot in a snowsuit, moon boots, thermal gloves, earmuffs, and a hat. No discomfort from cold meant I could concentrate on enjoying my bizarre surroundings.


Your description of desolation and alien like surroundings pleases me, and is in part what I was alluding to before in my journeys. I discuss this in my somewhat pathetic attempt at writing true mini-essays in this GameDev topic which I posted about seven months ago. But all that aside, your reference to your clothing indicates you think I go out wearing nothing but a loincloth and furs I have trapped myself. Actually, during my snow excursions, my ensemble usually includes synthetic thermal underwear, shirt and pants, fleece jacket, Gore-tex jacket and Gore-tex shell pants, liner socks, wool socks, leather boots with gusseted tongues, crampons, fleece cap, sunglasses, sunblock, and often a hat. All in all, a rather toasty getup protecting me from cold, wind chill, rain, etc.


quote: Original post by sunandshadow

But that''s not really one of my best memories; my absolute most fantastic memory is of a dream where I could fly, and my other best memories are of writing or reading fiction.


Ahhh! Reading fiction. No doubt these citizen''s will be prolific authors and readers. But what will they be reading and writing about? Having not experienced the grittier aspects of what life can offer, they will more liekly feel comfortable writing about experiences in theme parks and malls. I truly enjoy reading fiction. I absolutely love it. Ever read a book so good that most of your day is spent just looking forward to coming home and sitting down with that book? Truly one of the great pleasures in life. But, not the only one!

quote: Original post by sunandshadow

Face it Bishop_Pass, there are those of us who do not benefit from ''roughing it''. That''s just how my brain works - I cannot gain anything from an experience if I''m busy suffering.


Funny thing is, I hate ''roughing it'' too. On all my road trips I insist on spending my nights in name brand lodging; places like Comfort Suites, Super Eights, and Hampton Inns. Car camping is out of the question. So why my vociferous defense of hardship? Becasue, like I said, it provides the needed contrast. And it is necessary to achieve certain vistas in life, not just physical, but spiritual.

quote: Original post by sunandshadow

For those who do like challenge and thrills, I had this thought: this fictional world probably has great theme parks, especially incorporating virtual reality technologies. Maybe there''s a huge horror/adventure theme park that is completely redesigned by volunteers every week, the challenge is to make it the whole way through without going crazy or bailing out - and certainly physical challenges could be included. Of course, with the bodysculpting that''s available, going into the park with a buff body could be considered unsporting - oh, there''s all kinds of room for hair-raising adventure in this future


Shades of Survivor? A horrific contrivance if ever there was one. This is all artifice. Why?



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quote: Original post by bishop_pass

Being uncomfortable provides the contrast to comfort. Life is both. Darkness makes lightness brighter. Coldness makes warmth all the better.


Not always. You don''t have to taste mud to appreciate what fine wine tastes like. All that''s necessary is a bit of neutrality to clear the palette, not awful bitterness.


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Your society is diluting all that is good.


Hmmm, so you actually have a visceral reaction to this concept. What would you do if you were born in this world? Protest? Escape? Write scathing social critiques? Just curious.




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quote:
bishop_pass:
There are many endeavors which require resources other than the object itself. And there are also many endeavors which become diminished as more join in.


I''m starting to realise that I''m just not thinking about these endeavors that get diminished with too many people on account of I''m can''t think of what these endeavors would be. Maybe you have something specific in mind? I don''t think that for the struggles you''ve mentioned so far there''s anything stopping any of these hypothetical people limiting the number of people in their group.

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bishop_pass:
A computer game does not serve as a valid analogy. For one thing, the activity of using a computer game is confined to one''s household,


I was refering more to the creation of a new game rather than the playing of an existing one. Creating a new game can be a very social experience which can take you outside your home. However I should be able to decide at what point I should start. Do I want to create a game for a console system I''d also have to create? Or do I just want to start using existing OS and hardware? Both creative, both rewarding, just different starting points. The people who buy either game will understand that I had a specific purpose in mind.

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sunandshadow
For those who do like challenge and thrills, I had this thought: this fictional world probably has great theme parks, especially incorporating virtual reality technologies. Maybe there''s a huge horror/adventure theme park that is completely redesigned by volunteers every week, the challenge is to make it the whole way through without going crazy or bailing out - and certainly physical challenges could be included. Of course, with the bodysculpting that''s available, going into the park with a buff body could be considered unsporting - oh, there''s all kinds of room for hair-raising adventure in this future


Don''t forget to dedicate a park or two to young children. With the warped stories and things we use to entertain kids I don''t think it''d matter how buff your bod is, your mind still turns to goo. (An adventure in Wonderland? A Barney world equivilent? Now that could get scary. )
quote: Original post by Wavinator

What would you do if you were born in this world? Protest? Escape? Write scathing social critiques? Just curious.


Yes. I think I would write scathing social critiques. Then I would protest. And then I would escape, dragging along a couple of its screaming and kicking citizens with me. After a time we would return, for hardship and struggle is best endured in measured doses. Besides, I would only be able to endure my companions complaining for so long.

After ruminating for a time about our ''epic'' journey, my companions would start longing for another adventure, realizing that life is not just malls and virtual reality parks.

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"To understand the horse you'll find that you're going to be working on yourself. The horse will give you the answers and he will question you to see if you are sure or not."
- Ray Hunt, in Think Harmony With Horses
ALU - SHRDLU - WORDNET - CYC - SWALE - AM - CD - J.M. - K.S. | CAA - BCHA - AQHA - APHA - R.H. - T.D. | 395 - SPS - GORDIE - SCMA - R.M. - G.R. - V.C. - C.F.
Yikes... am I the only person here who sees this Utopian society, socialistic paradise, as a candy coating for a Morlock-controlled meat factory a la H.G. Wells'' Time Machine? In one part of the game, your character stumbles into a maintenance shaft, and decides to follow the thrumming sounds of heavy machinery, only to find himself in the middle of a large degenerate-society compound where they process the top-side Socialites for food?

Sorry, couldn''t resist... me being the fan of conspiracy theories and government subterfuge and all



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