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Are there any forums you know for girlfriends/dating problems/advice/stories or whatever. Just like the kind of posts we have here on the lounge once in a while. I could really really use a manual for some women, they're driving me crazy. One minute im the best in the world, the next minute bye with no explanations. Thaaaaaaanks.
is there a forum to help you figure out women?!?! dude you spend too much time on the internet...
Quote:NO! If you are hanging out with women...in real life, you aren't spending enough time on the Internet!!!
Original post by Funkymunky
is there a forum to help you figure out women?!?! dude you spend too much time on the internet...
Here's a big hint for you: all girls are different. They are complicated humans, just like men. They may act irrationally. They may be mean or vicious or utterly devoid of intelligence, but there isnt a single thing in the world thats going to "teach you" about women.
Just like every other human on the planet, youve got to meet them, one by one, engage them and socialize. Once in a while, you'll find someone who you "get".
Just like every other human on the planet, youve got to meet them, one by one, engage them and socialize. Once in a while, you'll find someone who you "get".
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Originaly posted by kirkkit:
but there isnt a single thing in the world thats going to "teach you" about women.
Oh, I disagree
Answer: Probably, but do you think the people you'd find there could help you?
Advice: Ask the girl in question. Don't be accusatory. Ask like you're assuming you screwed something up, and you want to know what it was and if you can fix it. If you did screw up, you'll get the best possible response with this approach. If you didn't, and it's some issue of hers that has nothing to do with you, then maybe she'll feel bad about making you feel bad -- and will hopefully give you a straight answer, at least.
Girls aren't always so good at the straight answers, being culturally conditioned to be "nice." This can result in statements like "I had a good time too, let's do this again sometime," when they're actually thinking "that was a disaster, with luck I'll never have to see this guy again."
I'm not saying this applies to your current situation, whatever it is. Just something to keep in mind.
Advice: Ask the girl in question. Don't be accusatory. Ask like you're assuming you screwed something up, and you want to know what it was and if you can fix it. If you did screw up, you'll get the best possible response with this approach. If you didn't, and it's some issue of hers that has nothing to do with you, then maybe she'll feel bad about making you feel bad -- and will hopefully give you a straight answer, at least.
Girls aren't always so good at the straight answers, being culturally conditioned to be "nice." This can result in statements like "I had a good time too, let's do this again sometime," when they're actually thinking "that was a disaster, with luck I'll never have to see this guy again."
I'm not saying this applies to your current situation, whatever it is. Just something to keep in mind.
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NO! If you are hanging out with women...in real life, you aren't spending enough time on the Internet!!!
Truer words were never spoken...
After many years of my wife asking why I was apologizing when it wasn't my fault I finally completed the statement for her. I'm sorry I'm really going to suffer for your screwup. Trust me, it really helped. Now when I say I'm sorry she tells me I damn well should be.
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Original post by krikkit
Here's a big hint for you: all girls are different. They are complicated humans, just like men.
What kind of "women" are you talking about [razz]
Anyway, complex is not the way I'd describe most of humanity. I would hazard to say that the majority of cases of "complex" people are simple cases of indivuals who either do not understand their own emotions or who choose to communicate them sumbtly and expect complete understanding. If you want to understand a women, 90% of the time all it takes is paying attention to their emotions and listening to things they like to repeat. Often times it is not the content of their speaking but the emotion behind it that matters most.
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Original post by LilBudyWizer
After many years of my wife asking why I was apologizing when it wasn't my fault I finally completed the statement for her. I'm sorry I'm really going to suffer for your screwup. Trust me, it really helped. Now when I say I'm sorry she tells me I damn well should be.
Sounds like you need to put her in her place [razz]
(ok, don't do that)
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Original post by Cold_Steel
NO! If you are hanging out with women...in real life, you aren't spending enough time on the Internet!!!
HAHAHAHA
Seriously though, women were nothing more than subserviant possessions for all of human existance, until ~100 years ago (I know there are exceptions...). I feel like because of this they sequester themselves from males and try to develop this whole "mystery" about them where men don't know exactly why they do the irrational things they do (when that's why they do them). They've turned rather selfish (that's a broad generalization, chauvinist pun intended) and can get away with being incredibly spoiled and ridiculous.
However, since it has only been ~100 years, I feel it my duty as a man to actually tolerate said irrationalism and cater to their stuck-up asses. It is a lousy time for those of us who still represent chivalry, but such is life
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Original post by Funkymunky
Seriously though, women were nothing more than subserviant possessions for all of human existance, until ~100 years ago (I know there are exceptions...) I feel like because of this they sequester themselves from males and try to develop this whole "mystery" about them where men don't know exactly why they do the irrational things they do (when that's why they do them) They've turned rather selfish (that's a broad generalization, chauvinist pun intended) and can get away with being incredibly spoiled and ridiculous.
Wow.
I'm inclined to assume that you are seriously lacking in social skills and "social intelligence," for lack of a better term. That would explain why you can't figure out why women do what they do -- to the point where you end up constructing a ridiculous conspiracy-theory explanation like the above. It could also explain why you think women "sequester themselves from males" -- because women do tend to disengage from guys with poor social skills. (Well, socially-aware people tend to avoid socially-inept people, regardless of gender. It's just that women generally seem to have more "social intelligence," in my experience.)
Feel free to elaborate on the specifics of this irrational and spoiled behavior, though, if you really think it's "them", and not just you...
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Originaly posted by kirkkit:
but there isnt a single thing in the world thats going to "teach you" about women.
Oh, I disagree
Wow. That guide rockets right on past "manipulative" straight into the realm of "disgusting".
Some good points in there, but take the advice well-salted lest you become an extremely low quality person.
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Read what David DeAngelo has got to say. I guarantee success if you trust him and give him the benefit of a doubt before calling it "manipulative" or "faking who you really are". Think about it in this way: "What if how you think women work was ALL wrong?" then why not learn how it really is. So it's kinda like you didn't get it right the first time, now begin from scratch again.
/MindWipe
/MindWipe
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Original post by MindWipe
Read what David DeAngelo has got to say. I guarantee success if you trust him and give him the benefit of a doubt before calling it "manipulative" or "faking who you really are". Think about it in this way: "What if how you think women work was ALL wrong?" then why not learn how it really is. So it's kinda like you didn't get it right the first time, now begin from scratch again.
/MindWipe
Take that one well-salted, too. The central message is, IIRC, that you can't make girls like you by being nice to them. Well, no shit. Girls can't make me like them by being nice to me, either; it's kind of an obvious principle. If you want girls to fall all over you, you have to be interesting and sexy. There is some knowledge of what it means to be interesting and sexy to be gleaned from these "guides", but I can't respect people who would use them as a how-to. It really is fakery, and it reeks of total disrespect for the people you interact with.
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