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Friendly Reminder

Started by nsmadsen Aug 14, 2008 at 8:51 AM 5 replies 1.2k views
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nsmadsen
nsmadsen
Hey folks, I've noticed many posts lately are not following all of the guidelines set out in the forum FAQ. One of the biggest problems is bumping. A close runner up is probably a tie: flaming and not using the template. Please look over the forum FAQ (this is for both old and new members) to make sure you know what is expected of you. When you post in the HW forum it is assumed you've read and agree to these guidelines. If you don't agree to these rules and guidelines, then you probably shouldn't post in this forum. Those folks that continue to disregard these rules will continue to have their posts flagged with a warning, then shut down and are subject to other disciplinary actions (if needed). For your convenience I've posted the text here, but please follow the actual forum FAQ link since it also contains many helpful hyper links for more info.
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Rules * All posts must follow the appropriate posting guidelines (see below) * No criticism, feedback only if allowed* * No flaming** * No personal attacks/insults * No disrupting threads and/or starting arguments * No spamming, posting of duplicate topics * No posting of negative comics (such as the MMO ones) * No bumping threads (see guidelines below) * The Help Wanted forums have had serious problems with threads degrading due to endless nitpicking, often in the guise of constructive criticism, and even genuinely helpful advice often encourages others to post less constructive criticisms. For this reason, a section has been added to the end of the post template for the desired level of feedback. The options are "none", or "encouraging only" - I believe these options are fairly self explanatory. If you don't play nice, I'll be forced to go back to the zero-tolerance policy with no feedback allowed for anyone. ** For the purposes of this forum a flame is any post considered by a moderator or member of staff to be non-constructive. This could be an attack on the original poster, an non-relevant post, or any form of criticism. Posting Guidelines Post Templates: All posts seeking help in Help Wanted must follow the posting template given HERE. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL. Posters not using the template will be warned and given time to edit their post. Failure to comply will result in the post being deleted and possible further disciplinary action. Posts offering services are not required to follow a template at present, but should include all relevant information: * Name * Skills offered (say what you can actually do) * Portfolio links/thumbnail images/etc. * Previous experience * Anything else you feel a prospective team might like to know Any other posts will not be required to follow a template, but should be kept neat and structured in a way that makes sense. Also note that Help Wanted isn't a discussion forum, so keep things on topic - if your post isn't requesting or offering a service, it probably belongs in a different forum. Bumping: As a general rule, bumping is not allowed in the Help Wanted forum. There are however, certain conditions under which it will be allowed: * If after 2 days your thread has recieved no replies. In this case, you may bump the thread once, but you should first make some changes to the original post - try to provide updates and/or additional information. You may repeat this a few (not more than three) times. * If you are adding additional content, you may do so in an additional post to the thread, but no more than once per day. * You may at any time post to say that all positions have been filled. * You may at any time respond to questions posted in your thread. General Guidelines: * You must use the template. You can however make your post stand out by adding additional content, graphics, colouring, etc. As an excellent example of this, and one of the more succesful repeat users of the Help Wanted forum, I'm linking to this old recruiting thread by TheArtifex as a good example, and recommending a read through this article describing the guidelines The Artifex follows when creating posts. * Use thumbnails for large images whenever possible. Your thread will load faster (especially for dialup users), and readers won't have to scroll as much to get past the images if they aren't interested in them. * "The Company Issue": Some members post as a start-up development company - this is fine, but always explain your position and plans for your company and game. You don't neccesarily have to provide all these details on the forum, but if you are successful in recruiting always give interested parties as much information as possible. * Don't promise to pay if you can't. Explain about royalties and the like if it's a possibility, but don't make promises you can't follow through on, and always be clear and up front about these matters. Intellectual Property/Copyright/Licensing Many members post looking for help remaking old games. Intellectual property laws prohibit the creation of a game based on someone else's Intellectual property (IP) unless you have the express written permission of the IP owner. That means you can't use the graphics, title, trademarked names, etc. of existing games unless you get permission, even if your game is a fan project or freeware. Some companies won't care, but others will make a big fuss (and possibly launch legal action) if you go ahead without permission. Just because some other team are working on a project it does not mean you can (they may have permission - or the IP holder may not have noticed their project yet). Either get permission from the company in question, or change your project to something similar, but with new graphics/dialogue/names/whatever. Threads for projects clearly violating this will be given a warning to make changes and/or get permission, and will then be closed if appropriate action isn't taken. If this may concern you then I also suggest taking a look at the article 10 Big Myths about copyright explained.
Thanks guys, Nathan
Nathan Madsen
Nate (AT) MadsenStudios (DOT) Com
Composer-Sound Designer
Madsen Studios

Austin, TX
nsmadsen
nsmadsen
The bumping policy has been tweaked just a bit to make things more clear and also avoid certain situations that we've recently had in the HW forum.

The new bumping policy is:

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Bumping:

As a general rule, bumping is not allowed in the Help Wanted forum. There are however, certain conditions under which it will be allowed:

* If after 2 days your thread has received no replies. In this case, you may bump the thread once, but you should first make some changes to the original post - try to provide updates and/or additional information. You may repeat this a few (not more than three or four) times, after which you should wait a couple of weeks.

* If you are adding additional content, you may do so by editing the original post.

* You may at any time post to say that all positions have been filled.

* You may at any time respond to questions posted in your thread.


The change is made in bold.

Thanks,

Nathan
Nathan Madsen
Nate (AT) MadsenStudios (DOT) Com
Composer-Sound Designer
Madsen Studios

Austin, TX
Slyxsith
Slyxsith
For what it's worth Nathan I really appreciate the active moderation that goes on here and think that the forums are far more useable when they are kept cleaned up. There are alot of legit indie projects running and it's a real shame when it's so hard to find the "thinkers" in all the "stinkers" ;)

You da man.
Mark MacPherson
Flybynight Studios
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d000hg
d000hg
All this still doesn't change the fact that most new members won't see this post, and wouldn't think there might be a posting template (or check). The amount of time you spend enforcing the rules would surely be less than the time it would take someone to hack an extra step in the posting process, or to pre-populate the text-box with the template.
nsmadsen
nsmadsen
I'm not on the tech side of GD.net so I don't have the knowledge or the permissions set up to make this kind of change. I agree with you, but you're barking up the wrong tree. I can certainly pass this message on to those that would have this ability. Because of this, I'm simply doing what I can (tedious as it may be ;) )

Thanks!

Nathan
Nathan Madsen
Nate (AT) MadsenStudios (DOT) Com
Composer-Sound Designer
Madsen Studios

Austin, TX
sanch3x
sanch3x
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Original post by d000hg
All this still doesn't change the fact that most new members won't see this post, and wouldn't think there might be a posting template (or check). The amount of time you spend enforcing the rules would surely be less than the time it would take someone to hack an extra step in the posting process, or to pre-populate the text-box with the template.


You can always recommend this change to the suggestion forum. Seeing how it's a pretty good idea I'd encourage you to do so. [smile]
nsmadsen
nsmadsen
Just had a slew of new posts that clearly hadn't read the FAQ before posting.

Folks, please look into this and follow it. This makes life easier for the forum, for me and for your post!

Thanks,

Nathan
Nathan Madsen
Nate (AT) MadsenStudios (DOT) Com
Composer-Sound Designer
Madsen Studios

Austin, TX

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