Running

We goin'' to get high, high.

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Opere Citato

Here are some reasons i came up with in history class:
- Space Aliens...
- Your really a robot and your program that tells you that you''re tired broke
- you actually callapsed after the first little while, and the rest was a hallucination

or... well... i dunno...


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Thanks GKW

Might be the reason.

It''s called your Second Wind. I''ve experienced it many times, and it''s really cool. I once was just going to run about 3 miles, then, near the end, I was like, "Why stop now", so I ran faster for another 2 miles, and finished 5 miles in about 42 minutes (which was really good for me).

Don''t ask me to explain it at a physiological level cause I can''t

It really was quite an amazing feeling. Sounds stupid, but i was afraid i might collapse or something. Im gonna aim for it on my next run though (not collapsing but the "Second wind" thing).

Thanks guys

actually becoming high from running is a pretty frequent (i.e almost everyone) and well documented event. It´s got something with the release of various endorphines and painkillers from your brain....

survey conducted among marathon runners: over 80% think of sex while running, about 8% think of running while having sex.

It usually takes about half an hour for the effect to set in, and it lasts quite a while, so when i run, i usually run longer distances (10-15 kilometres).... WHOOO-HOOOOO! ...and it makes you think you could go on forever....


usually you´re hooked on running once you´ve had that high . Strange enough I´ve never had this effect with any other kind of sports...

Running''s awesome. I run on my highschool''s track and cross country teams. When you first start running, you''ll improve extremely fast, I think that''s due to nuero-muscular coordination.

But yeah. Running really kicks ass. The only thing that I don''t like about it is the fact that you can get injured from over-training.

-Forcas

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I''ve been running again as of late. Just running single miles on a nearby track. I''m usually tired by the 1500m mark, but I almost always pull off at least a decent sprint for the final 100m.

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All this talk about getting your second wind reminds me of my cycling experiences from many years ago. I''d hop on my road bike with the intention of doing my usual ride. Well, the first 10 miles or so would usually suck, between the need to find that invigoration and that damned headwind. But finally, the big righthand turn comes, the headwind is gone, and the next 20 miles are just a major high, spinning those pedals, flying down the roadway.

I took up running for awhile a few years back. I really should get back into it. It did help me get in shape. I remember I was running most every evening. It was during that time that I was probably in nearly my best shape for high altitude travel. I was with a friend and we were backpacking over a 12,000 foot pass in the High Sierra. So there we were, postholing through spring corn snow, and my friend was lagging big time.

But when all is said and done, to excel at high altitude, running is no substitute for aerobic exercise at high altitude. My best physical condition for high altitude aerobic (hiking, climbing, etc.) ocurred in ''98 when I did seven consecutive weekend excursions into high altitude in the High Sierra. Most weekends, I was getting above 11,000, sometimes 12,000 feet in 10 to 15 mile roundtrip hikes with several thousand feet of gain each trip.

I am certainly not one of them, but if any of you want a running challenge, try running to the summit of Mt. Whitney (elevation: 14,494 feet) from the trailhead at 8,300 feet. Eleven miles to the top, 6,000 feet of gain at high altitude, and eleven miles back, all with the unscreened sun beating down on you, and the added risk of afternoon thunderstorms (serious shit) to contend with.

If that''s not enough for you, then consider starting at Badwater, Death Valley (elevation: 282 feet below sea level) and doing the hundred mile bike ride to Whitney Portal (elevation: 8,300 feet) and then hopping off your bike and either doing the Whitney Trail (eleven miles) or the Mountaineer''s Route (four miles, mostly trailess and steep). All told, 14,778 feet of gain. People do this.

More thoughts on that second wind: you get the second wind, but altitude sucks it right out of you. One day, I''ve got 39 pounds on my back, backpacking gear and camera gear, and I want to get up the North Fork of Lone Pine Creek towards Mt. Whitney (the Mountaineeer''s Route) and then go over the 13,000+ foot Russell-Carrillon Pass to Tulainyo Lake (elevation 12,900 feet). Well, damn, I''m feeling pretty good that morning, and I blasted up to the first lake (elevation 10,350 feet) in just under 2 1/2 hours. This is several creek crossings, up a ledge system, and so on. If I was ever going to get a second wind, here is where I need it. But just when you''re about to get it, the altitude just starts sucking the berath right out of your lungs. The next leg is another 1,000 feet of gain to the next lake, and this time it''s over spring corn snow, and it takes me damn near an hour to go 1/2 a mile. Two hours later sees my at the second lake. Now, by God, I might have a third wind. And so I set off up a really steep slope for the pass, and I''m pushing maybe 12,000 feet, and then I just lose it. All I see is a frozen desolate lake below me, snow around the lake, I''m all alone, the east face of Whintey and the Needles loom above me, and thunder is cracking behind teh summit. All motivation leaves me.

Oh, was this a thread about running? Sorry.

Hey NewDeal!

I started running to bout 2 months ago.

The same thing happened to me last saturday while I was running in the evening!! Totally cool! I felt like I could have kept running another half hour, didn''t feel tired or pain in my legs... but I had to stop because a pain on my side, but that was the road''s fault...

I tried to do the same on monday but I had the same pain almost at the beggining... I''ll try again this friday

See ya!

I''ve only got the second wind feeling three times. Once was a 100 mile cycling trek on a BMX bike. I was about 14 years old at the time. The other two times was when I was running a marathon distance. I believe that was 26 miles. I got the feeling after the 20 mile limit. It was worth the pain. Recently I''m trying to get up to a 13 mile daily run. I use to have alot of ankle, knee, and hip pain. Then I learned about Kenyan mechanics and running on the ball of the foot. Since then, no pain at all.

Guy

The only time I got the "second wind feeling," if this is considered a second wind, was when I was snowboarding with one of my friends at a mountain somewhere in P.A ( this was a few years ago... ) and I went ahead ( it was my first time there). I saw a big jump, and I figured I could probably do like a 360 from it... and I went up the slope, full speed. When I rose up.. I saw the big pile of branches and a bunch of bushes beneath me. It was about a 10 or 15 foot drop, so it wasn''t that bad, but still it kind of hurt. I thought I broke my arm but I was having so much fun, I went on anyway.

"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you..."~Friedrich Nietzsche