This 'announcement' felt more like an announcement for their e3 announcements, and in that regard they were probably better off not doing it, but I didn't hear anything that was bad. There wasn't really enough information given to extrapolate as far as people are.

It was a hardware and 'other features' announcement; they made the point of saying they weren't going to cover games... and then everyone moans about the lack of games... *sigh*

And with this one sentence you've nicely summed up the joke which is 'game journalism' these days because someone at MS has said that you don't need to be online all the time; currently the best information is that needs to do a Steam style check every 24h but even that isn't a hard and fast number and is subject to change.

How does this relate to 'game journalism'?
Because, like so many 'facts' about this launch, it was a rumour which got made a fact because people didn't check their sources then once it was out there was no way of correcting it.

And so the story changes. Next week the press will be reporting that the BBC Micro is back with a vengence and going head-to-head with Betamax and the VHS...and Nintendo is giving away a free bunch of bananas with every copy of Donkey Kong Returns for the XBox 360. Oh, and next week sees the long awaited third installment of the Rise of The Robots series, in which the robots will no longer kick and punch each other but will instead boast the new ground-breaking feature of throwing beanie babies at each other with lethal accuracy. In other news GTA 5 is to be blessed with a soundtrack by Stinky Weaslesticks...

Why is nobody talking about Kinect2 + Stereo3D ?

Interacting with 3D objects floating in the air is now available to consumers

Previously it cost a fortune: www.virtalis.com

currently the best information is that needs to do a Steam style check every 24h but even that isn't a hard and fast number and is subject to change.

I posted this in a similar thread, but it's more relevant here, and this gave me every reason not to buy XB1: http://imgur.com/s4rFvsn

It seems a 24 hour check is the least of the problems with XB1; Microsoft have become so greedy that I would put nothing past them. Even the fact that you can't buy one month of Xbox live gold without turning on automatic renewal has been pissing me off for years. It's a real shame, because I do love Xbox gaming, but this seems more like an attempt at global control than a games console.

And when you ring up to cancel the automatic renewal they deliberately take AGES to process it and try and cancel the associated service (with no refund) even if you have months left ...

And it gets worse

If your xbox live account has a payment card registered and then removed (so it no longer appears on billing.microsoft.com)

and you cancel your current payment card with the bank (because it is actually easier than ringing M$)

they will try ALL of your previously registered cards until they get the money (which is illegal - but there is nothing you can do)

(In my case they used an AMEX card I used once 2 years previously when their VISA thing was broken)

And then of course ... XBox has no password protection for payment cards ... only for signing in

This means everytime you use your XBox you also make all your payment cards available ... to your kids

Just in my street alone there are 4 families who have multiple £100 bills because of this "feature", myself included

(and mostly it is for game add-ons for games we do not own)

Also if you use a payment card to pay for a service on xbox.com

the card details are now available for use on your xbox ... no warning given of course!

Don't ever give M$ your payment card details ...

Consumers are sheep so nobody cares

And when you ring up to cancel the automatic renewal they deliberately take AGES to process it and try and cancel the associated service (with no refund) even if you have months left ...

And it gets worse

Helpful tip for people. If you want to cancel your payment it's easier to do on xbox.com than over the phone. Though they have gotten better about doing it over the phone. I stopped using their payments a while ago though. I only buy prepaid 12 month cards when they go on sale. Any other way is a total ripoff.

I posted this in a similar thread, but it's more relevant here, and this gave me every reason not to buy XB1: http://imgur.com/s4rFvsn

Where as on the Playstation Network or (whatever the Wii has) Indie Developers can self publish...

There are plenty of good sources to source your opinion on why to/not to buy the Xbox One. At least do yourself a service and find one that has even a small idea of what the hell they are talking about. Neither PSN or Wii will let you self publish in any sort of easy fashion. The only console that's let people self-publish so far has been the xbox 360 to my knowledge; I guess the Ouya now too.

At least do yourself a service and find one that has even a small idea of what the hell they are talking about.

Why quote me? If you dispute what you see in my info source, I'm all ears? I'd love for all of that not to be true...

Why quote me? If you dispute what you see in my info source, I'm all ears? I'd love for all of that not to be true...

The quote under yours is from your source, and I said "Neither PSN or Wii will let you self publish in any sort of easy fashion. The only console that's let people self-publish so far has been the xbox 360 to my knowledge; I guess the Ouya now too." in response to it.

And when you ring up to cancel the automatic renewal they deliberately take AGES to process it and try and cancel the associated service (with no refund) even if you have months left ...

And it gets worse

If your xbox live account has a payment card registered and then removed (so it no longer appears on billing.microsoft.com)

and you cancel your current payment card with the bank (because it is actually easier than ringing M$)

they will try ALL of your previously registered cards until they get the money (which is illegal - but there is nothing you can do)

(In my case they used an AMEX card I used once 2 years previously when their VISA thing was broken)

And then of course ... XBox has no password protection for payment cards ... only for signing in

This means everytime you use your XBox you also make all your payment cards available ... to your kids

Just in my street alone there are 4 families who have multiple £100 bills because of this "feature", myself included

(and mostly it is for game add-ons for games we do not own)

Also if you use a payment card to pay for a service on xbox.com

the card details are now available for use on your xbox ... no warning given of course!

Don't ever give M$ your payment card details ...

Consumers are sheep so nobody cares

Or you could buy prepaid cards (which are cheaper anyway). As far as kids having access to purchases, perhaps you should leverage the ability to use multiple accounts... It's there for a reason.

Really? I thought they phased out Xbox points and points cards.