Really!? Whoa! It was long time since someone said my game (any game) was not too complex and confusing It seems I'm making a progress

(or you just happen to be a hardcore player)

I like to play these kind of games and I'm currently designing a browser empire builder so that might help a bit.

I sux at promotion Mostly I rely on players doing it themselves (I know, not good). I also:

Added it to IndieDB: http://www.indiedb.com/games/europe-1300

Added it to VGG (more known as sister site of BoardGameGeek): http://videogamegeek.com/videogame/164367/europe-1300

Have a FB page (pathetic, got like 4 players total) https://www.facebook.com/Europe1300

Added to Gamejolt (pretty funsite with real players)

Some Reddit (not that bad but it's troublesome).

Got tons of players from various forums where players posted about it.

Also added the site to a few toplist... but these really went down the drain in last years, so not worth it.

Surprisingly GameDev.net is in the top 10 referers... (but not this topic, from my signature on various random topics) I suppose people you know will check your game even if you don't ask... But don't be fooled, designers are shabby players they just lurk and then perish when they fall in love with a new random prototype/alpha thing

How many players? Around 300 souls (real players who login every day), or 2,000 if I used other metric (as most games do) or 200,000 if I used some tricks, stretching and even other metric (it would still be technically true ). If you asking about true/true it's 300, if you asking bacause you want to compare with what other indie games say then 600 active players, if you ask to compare with big companies that use all tricks to pad the numbers then definitely above 200k

Apparently your marketing has done it's job then.

It was in testing for 3 years (I know, too long).

Where did you find those test players? I'm asking because I want to play my game with others in the near future but as of yet I'm clueless on how to find test players.

Where did you find those test players? I'm asking because I want to play my game with others in the near future but as of yet I'm clueless on how to find test players.

Got them from my previous game/s Mostly http://www.lordsgame.com

it has some of the same problems as Renaissance.

Feel free to post these problems, as said above, I'm unable to really play the other games and I don't understand them so I'm not aware

The lack of a meaningful economy, the pace of the game, the meaningfulness of diplomacy, things to do for those who are not very highly ranked (king in Europe, king, duke, count, council member, or mayor in RK). Battles also are fun, but fairly simple and don't allow for any sort of tactics. Those are just off the top of my head.

Where did you find those test players? I'm asking because I want to play my game with others in the near future but as of yet I'm clueless on how to find test players.

Got them from my previous game/s Mostly http://www.lordsgame.com

And how did you find test persons for your first games? I'm still playing your game by the way. I like how I don't have to spend a lot of time on it and can pick it up whenever I feel like it.

And how did you find test persons for your first games? tongue.png I'm still playing your game by the way. I like how I don't have to spend a lot of time on it and can pick it up whenever I feel like it.

Chicken egg problem :D Yeah, at some point a long, long time ago I had to coerce my friends and other associates to try my game :) I spent like 30 minutes of my time to acquire one player I think :)

Yeah, it was "designed for people who don't have much time" (I even use it as a merketing motto :D). I'm puzzled why no one else in the game industry is going that route (they all measure their game success by how much time people spend playing it, which makes no sense to me...)

the pace of the game,

What do you mean? Too fast? Too slow?

I think a it might be good for the game if new players could immediately engage in some low-level diplomacy among themselves. Right now you have to wait too long before the most fun part starts IMO, so that might cost you players.

I think a it might be good for the game if new players could immediately engage in some low-level diplomacy among themselves. Right now you have to wait too long before the most fun part starts IMO, so that might cost you players.

In what sense/do you have some idea in mind?

Only kingdoms wage wars, so I think only these do diplomacy. And since there are only few kingdoms...

Well, players can become Counts of provinces, but I'm not sure it affects diplomacy that much.

Maybe it would be fun if people within a kingdom could have meaningful ways of improving themselves and their alliances through diplomacy from the start of the game. For actual ideas, I have no clue as I've yet to discover the entire game.

the pace of the game,

What do you mean? Too fast? Too slow?

Too fast.