There''s an underground where Bid for Power lives on. The source was leaked before they were shut down.

well i''m not a proponent of copyright infringement but i''m glad they got the source out. i''m pretty sure the game was open source. so i don''t know or understand why they would take the time to shut it down.

if anyone could tell me (a moderator hopefully) why it is necessary then please do.

also what would want to see in a DBZ game?

I know at first it seems like, "Hey, they didn''t make any money, so what is the big deal." The problem is, it does not matter whether or not you make money off of a deritive work. If you take someone elses copyrighted work, incorporate it into your own work, and try to pass the final product off as your own, and you do not have permission to use the other persons work, what you have is copyright infringement. Not making any money will just make you look a little better when the judge decides how much you have to pay in damages. Damages you say? Yes, companies spend time and money to create their works, advertise, etc. Why would they want to let people ride their coat-tails for free. Look at it another way. What if you create a free DBZ game that is in direct competition with a commercial DBZ game. The commercial game company has paid a licensing fee to legally use DBZ material. You paid no fee, you just rip off the names and images. The commercial company want $49.99 for their game; you give yours away for free. No one buys the commercial game when word gets out that they can get yours for free. It could be argued that your copyright infringement is taking revenue away from the commercial company, and don''t think that a court would not see it that way. The Bid for Power group should be happy that all they got was a slap on the wrist.

oh! well then that''s a good point.
i see the folly of my thinking.
but maybe it''s good if they got it out.
then it''ll keep the commercial from releasing such crap when they
see a indie group making better quality game for the love (read in
also "free!") of making games.

just my two cents?

any ideas on how you would make a DBZ-type game?
what would you put?
what hardware/software/engine would you use?

i''ve seen two NEW games and i know of one old game.
so yes a good game for DBZ is possible....
just usually not by commercial companies it seems....

just wanted to get more opinions....

I like DragonBall Z because its a cartoon were the characters really f*ck sh*t up. For example the battle with Cell is classic in this respect. Another aspect about it I like is the fact that not all the characters are good. Yajorobi is a sniffling coward and a liar, in the early episodes, Krellin is totally self serving, Bulma is a B*tch, Then of course theres Piccolo and Vegeta. One thing I don''t like about the show is the way its not internally consistant. When Vegeta fought Frieza why didn''t he do the "energy ball in the sky thing" and transform into the giant destructo ape?

So far as a DB Z game, to me the different series were structured as with conversion to a videogame in mind. The origional dragonball show could very easily have been a 2d sidescroller, and DB Z could (and was) made into a fighting game.

yeah.
DBZ is mostly about the fighting.
but i think a story element could be introduced.
one that is not in the original series but a derivative of it.
that way it''s not just one way mindless fighting.

just a thought

Vegeta did not grow his tail back from the fight with Goku, so he could not transform.(this doesn''t really negate your argument, you just have to find a different example)

Apparently, adults do not regrow tails, but children do.(Goku does in Dragonball)

interesting!