I am still a dateless wonder... What is the next step?

Step 1: Find a guy that gets lost of dates not based on looks.
Step 2: Watch how he picks up chicks.
STep 3: Imitate him.

Don't just imitate him, pretend you're him and do is he does. It's not how you look, it's how you act. Learning a new way of acting is what you need.

Have you considered spending time around women as opposed to posting about them on a game development forum?

THERE IS NO MANUAL.

Approaching and picking up women in bars or clubs or just walking up to them cold is completely unnatural for about 95% of men.

The best means of dating women is simply to meet them in a totally casual and friendly environment, get to know them, decide if they like you, and if you like them ask them out.

Find some activity or activities to do where women are involved: school activities, church, clubs, community service, etc. Meet these women. Get comfortable around them. Ask them out.

Wahey, another one of these threads. [lol]
Ah well, I guess a large population of GDNet members are in the same boat as you, so it's hardly surprising we have so many of 'em...

muchos improvement id say. the rattail seems like a bad idea, but one thats easily mended with a haircut (go to some trendish hairstyler and let him do his gay thing with your hair, girl love it)

for the rest of your problems: beer is your friend.

also, confidence is something you need to build. dont expect the hottest chixzors to be impressed with what confidence youve managed to gather. however, id say that things are looking good for you.

get out with a couple of friends, drink lots of beer (be sure not to let go of your ability to form coherent sentences though), and just walk up to a girl (remember: not too hot. not ugly, just not the girl who already has 10 guys around her), and start talking.

(note: this technique is not guaranteed to yield succes. however, as the amount of attempts goes to infinity, the chance of succes rapidly goes to 1)

If you have trouble approaching women then approach them from a different viewpoint. Just get to know them. Never talk politics, with anyone, ever!

Then start to worry why the plastic bag next to you has rotted. Oh dear, it's only got shampoo in it. Does anything in shampoo rot plastic?

Sorry, I would write more, but I have to clean up a disintegrated plastic bag.

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Original post by coldacid photos of me

When's the last time you saw a guy with that haircut?

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Original post by benryves Wahey, another one of these threads. [lol] Ah well, I guess a large population of GDNet members are in the same boat as you, so it's hardly surprising we have so many of 'em...

If you crawl through the lounge, or check my posting history, you'll notice that many, if not all, of the recent dating threads have been started by yours truly. :D

Whatever you do, don't start the conversation with...

"Well the guys on gamedev.net recommended that I..."

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Original post by kordova Whatever you do, don't start the conversation with... "Well the guys on gamedev.net recommended that I..."

...and don't forget, chicks dig source code.
Especially C# for some reason.

1) Rat tails died when the 90's rolled around... you know, 15 years ago.

2) Join the SCA - lots of big breasted geeky chicks there.

3) I don't have anymore advice to give ya.

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Original post by Eelco muchos improvement id say. the rattail seems like a bad idea, but one thats easily mended with a haircut (go to some trendish hairstyler and let him do his gay thing with your hair, girl love it)

I like the rat-tail, and it's only that way until my hair grows long enough to drape about my shoulders. Or maybe I'll grow a ponytail... Either way, I want to have my hair long while I still have hair at all.

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for the rest of your problems: beer is your friend.

Real men don't drink pig swill. Real men drink vodka and the fine grains, like rye. :p

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also, confidence is something you need to build. dont expect the hottest chixzors to be impressed with what confidence youve managed to gather. however, id say that things are looking good for you. get out with a couple of friends, drink lots of beer (be sure not to let go of your ability to form coherent sentences though), and just walk up to a girl (remember: not too hot. not ugly, just not the girl who already has 10 guys around her), and start talking.

I try to avoid the swarmed ubar-sexy girls, because they tend to be vain and/or clueless. So no need to tell me that. I like them looking cute, not have to be sexy, and a little extra on the bones doesn't hurt. Unfortunately, even those girls seem to have significant others.

Chris!!!!

I'm at C416 right now... I got class next door in about 10 minutes.

And as for the date thing? Well, I can't really give you advise myself because I'm dateless too. And wow, there are some nice looking women here arn't there? I just saw like three walk by. I guess that's the Fashion class eh? They just seem too damn stuck up though.

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Original post by coldacid Quote: Original post by Eelco muchos improvement id say. the rattail seems like a bad idea, but one thats easily mended with a haircut (go to some trendish hairstyler and let him do his gay thing with your hair, girl love it) I like the rat-tail, and it's only that way until my hair grows long enough to drape about my shoulders. Or maybe I'll grow a ponytail... Either way, I want to have my hair long while I still have hair at all.

ok, if dont feel like being blugeoned into a certain hairstyle, i totally respect that. know that youre choosing the hard way though.

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Quote: for the rest of your problems: beer is your friend. Real men don't drink pig swill. Real men drink vodka and the fine grains, like rye. :p

[grin]

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Quote: also, confidence is something you need to build. dont expect the hottest chixzors to be impressed with what confidence youve managed to gather. however, id say that things are looking good for you. get out with a couple of friends, drink lots of beer (be sure not to let go of your ability to form coherent sentences though), and just walk up to a girl (remember: not too hot. not ugly, just not the girl who already has 10 guys around her), and start talking. I try to avoid the swarmed ubar-sexy girls, because they tend to be vain and/or clueless. So no need to tell me that. I like them looking cute, not have to be sexy, and a little extra on the bones doesn't hurt. Unfortunately, even those girls seem to have significant others.

now youre just hiding behind self-pity. just remember: girls dont have any more innocent reasons for going to bars than guys do, and im not talking about getting drunk.

also, it might help picking the right kind of bar to go to. as a programmer with long hair i think youd fit best in the 'alternative' scene, chicks in mainstream bars dont exactly like ponytails, i can assure you from personal experience.

ignore me if im being overly obvious.

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Original post by zer0wolf 2) Join the SCA - lots of big breasted geeky chicks there.

I wonder if there's a chapter in the Toronto area, and if I could afford joining and costuming myself appropriately.

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Original post by coldacid Quote: Original post by zer0wolf 2) Join the SCA - lots of big breasted geeky chicks there. I wonder if there's a chapter in the Toronto area, and if I could afford joining and costuming myself appropriately.

what is it anyway?

it sounds interesting in any case [grin]

The SCA is everywhere, I'm sure they have a chapter in Toronto. It's really not that expensive of a thing to get into... most events, all day thing with feast is like $15, less if you go without the meal. There aren't any strict requisites for garb either, you just have to show an effort. Getting yourself a cheap tunic and wearing sweatpants and sandals for your first few events wouldn't be frowned upon at all.

Eelco, the SCA is The Society for Creative Anachronism. It's a rather large international organization that recreates all the fun stuff from pre-17th century Europe. You get to dress up, beat people up with sticks while wearing armor, practice archery, barter with merchants, and pass out drunk with a random chick you don't know.

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Original post by Eelco ok, if dont feel like being blugeoned into a certain hairstyle, i totally respect that. know that youre choosing the hard way though.

It may be the hard way, but I like it too much to lop it off. (I'd really like to get all David Bowie with my hair, to be honest, but it doesn't grow fast enough for that.)

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also, it might help picking the right kind of bar to go to. as a programmer with long hair i think youd fit best in the 'alternative' scene, chicks in mainstream bars dont exactly like ponytails, i can assure you from personal experience.

I wonder if there are alternative bars, or if there's just the clubs here in Toronto. Actually, I think the SCA idea, or joining a LARP, or even going to more anime clubs, will help me find and catch the type of girl I'm looking for, better than a bar.

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ignore me if im being overly obvious.

Certainly will. [grin]

well the dress sense isn't helping...