Goths!

I think(hope) they are joking.

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Original post by benryves Oh dear. These kids will look back on this article in a few years and feel a bit silly...

Why "in a few years"? I know they're from Norfolk, but surely it won't take that long even for those two to learn how to read?

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Sean Timarco Baggaley

Don't they ever look 12. [wink]

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Original post by Ainokea I think(hope) they are joking.

I wouldn't bet on it. I knew a few people like this, once... [wink]

i like to listen to some of their goth music sometimes (normally i like experimental/hard techno or gabber). but all the wannabe ppl are just stupid. same as the candy ravers. dressed up like hell and they always talk about how early they have been in the scene (even if you never saw them in the club you visit the last 5 years) and how good the old times were (they are normally barely 15).
its just funny to see such ppl are also in other "scenes" (even the word has a bad touch since so many ppl use it to tell you how cool they are)
lmao at posers, wannabes and all the other stupid ppl who think they are cool just because they dress up like... like... i dont know.

i should go to bed now... i'm 25 since 2 hours and i need rest (+too much alcohol)

edit: those are really the worst goths i have ever seen. the "normal" goths i know just wear black clothes and like the music.(even i normally wear black clothes but that has nothing to do with music.)

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After a while I saw a few goths in a group outside McDonalds I thought that they looked really cool.

Oh my, they look as if they are about to post over in the 'writing for games' forum.

That comment is not meant to be offensive, just funny. Most artistic and creative people tend to dress differently. Sheesh. The only who might find this comment offensive would be the noobs who still think they can write the next Chrono Trigger.

Has anybody ever known a successfull goth?

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Original post by PnP Bios Quote: After a while I saw a few goths in a group outside McDonalds I thought that they looked really cool. Oh my, they look as if they are about to post over in the 'writing for games' forum. That comment is not meant to be offensive, just funny. Most artistic and creative people tend to dress differently. Sheesh. The only who might find this comment offensive would be the noobs who still think they can write the next Chrono Trigger. Has anybody ever known a successfull goth?

No successful ones. I know one who is a complete burnout, and another who "turned gay" after being "taken advantage of" by an older goth.

Nice disclaimer [smile]

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I like to do magic spells and to look at runes books.

Now excuse me, I just pissed my pants laughing, so I gotta change clothing.

Toolmaker

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Original post by PnP Bios Has anybody ever known a successfull goth?

I dunno? Marilyn Manson? Is he considered goth? Seriously, he's just a gimick musician anyway. You know, like the Darkness.

I find it amusing so many of them try to be different by being...the same. Makes sense to me.

Southpark summed it up so well when Stan became a goth after being dumped. Comedy gold.

The standard goth pose.

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Original post by Toolmaker Quote: I like to do magic spells and to look at runes books. Now excuse me, I just pissed my pants laughing, so I gotta change clothing.

Same. Don't forget to wear your super-black pants! I almost did, and WOW, that was trippingly foolish.

OMFG I know a kid who looks exactly the same as the boy in the picture.

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Original post by PnP Bios Has anybody ever known a successfull goth?

99% of them grow out of it because they realise it's silly.

They are just trying to be part of a group, same as BIGFOOT's "wannabe ppl". Sounds a bit elitist to me, everyone wants some attention and generally making fun of them won't help. If you really think they are being silly, or are offensive to your or someone elses elitist group, you could tell them why, and even if they got really pissed, it would have more impact in their minds than calling them stupid or otherwise outcasting them, which just reinforces them, because they are in a small group and will stick together, or if they are alone, they will have no support which creates problems as well (possibly suicide).

Like I said, unless they're hurting someone, give em a break.

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Original post by Senses777 Quote: Original post by PnP Bios Has anybody ever known a successfull goth? 99% of them grow out of it because they realise it's silly. They are just trying to be part of a group, same as BIGFOOT's "wannabe ppl". Sounds a bit elitist to me, everyone wants some attention and generally making fun of them won't help. If you really think they are being silly, or are offensive to your or someone elses elitist group, you could tell them why, and even if they got really pissed, it would have more impact in their minds than calling them stupid or otherwise outcasting them, which just reinforces them, because they are in a small group and will stick together, or if they are alone, they will have no support which creates problems as well (possibly suicide). Like I said, unless they're hurting someone, give em a break.

But making fun of them is fun.

Or you could drool over them because they wear skimpy clothing like my friend does...

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Original post by jumpjumpjump Or you could drool over them because they wear skimpy clothing like my friend does...

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Misery Whispers Near the end of year 7 I went to a school disco and I was completely gothic. It was so funny because I got a lot of attention.

No, the sign of the beast goes this way. Do it right...asshats!

What is gothic anyhow? If you ask me I’d say it has very little to do with dressing dark or establishing ludicrous nicknames for ones self. It’s not about fitting in or looking cool. Isn’t part of the concept that a person is not concerned how/what others think (thus detaching oneself from the popularity-contest of society)?
The line “After a while I saw a few goths in a group outside McDonalds I thought that they looked really cool” sums up opinion of these kids. There is absolutely nothing wrong with individuality, but this is not it. This is the exact opposite. In reality, by dressing like such to stand out, these teenagers are more conforming than those they are trying to impress with their supposed anti-conformism. It is very shallow and it displeases me to read through the article.
On the other hand I am generally an accepting person and if these three kids feel good by pretending to be ‘goth’ – which is a pretty vague indefinable thing - then good on them. The negative side effect is that this breed of ‘goths’ create a negative sterotype that is imposed on those ‘real’ goths who are deep thinkers and actual individuals (not that I have associated with many).
To sum up: I dislike what these kids are trying to achieve but I accept that what makes them happy is their business.

Side note: I would refer to very few, if any, of the bands mentioned in that article as ‘goth’ bands.

Jackson Allan

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Original post by jack_1313 sterotype that is imposed on those ‘real’ goths who are deep thinkers and actual individuals

No Im sorry "real goths" are stupid too.