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Negative-numeric and imaginary dimensions

Started by TimChan Oct 29, 2005 at 8:06 PM 5 replies 1k views
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TimChan
TimChan
Beside natural-numeric dimensions such as 0D,1D,2D,...,nD, do negative-numeric dimensions and i-dimension, that i is sqrt(-1), exist? I'm thinking about this question and I suppose a negative-numeric dimension could be the reflection of the corresponding n-dimension, and an i-dimension could be the 90-degree-rotation of the corresponding n-dimension.
Winograd
Winograd
I doubt there's defined anything along those lines. Rotated 3D space is still 3D space, not 3iD or -3D. The amount of dimensions of space don't change in rotation or reflection. Perhaps you would be intrested in more insightful description of dimension?
ToohrVyk
ToohrVyk
The dimension of a vectorial space is equal to the size of the biggest free family of vectors in that vectorial space (or, if there is no maximal size, it is defined as infinity).

Because of that definition, only integers (and infinity) are valid dimension values. Using negative integers or complex numbers as dimension values would first require to propose an alternative definition of dimensions, because there is no such thing as a family of -1 vectors or a family of i vectors.
haegarr
haegarr
I agree w/ the previous postings but will express it a little bit different:

Negative numbers as well as imaginary numbers are valid values for _co-ordinates_ of dimensions (w.r.t. a suitable space, of course) but not for the _count_ of dimensions. Counting starts at zero and continues up to infinity.

A complex number, to show the difference, consists of a real part and an imaginary part. It can be understood as a vector, where the value of the real part denotes the co-ordinate on the real axis, and the value of the imaginary part denotes that of the imaginary axis. So a complex number could be interpreted as a vector in a 2-dimensional space. It is often illustrated so, w/ the real axis horizontal and the imaginary axis vertical.
eighty
eighty
I don't know about negative- and complex-valued dimensionality (though I doubt it exists), but the notion of dimensionality can be extended to positive real numbers.
Kuladus
Kuladus
Depends on what space you are referring to. If it is real coordinate space then only non-negative integer dimension is viable (not including infinite). If you are talking about inner product space or metric space then you can infinite dimensions, and if you are referring to fractal dimension then any positive real number is acceptable.

Mind you, real coordinate space in itself is still an abstract notion of the space we perceive, so abstract away!
TimChan
TimChan
Thanks for replies.
I have a clearer understanding of dimension now...

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