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[web] New web developer need help

Started by namingway Jun 23, 2006 at 9:47 PM 12 replies 1.9k views
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namingway
namingway
I know HTML/XHTML, &#106avascript, VBscript and a bit of XML. I plan to run a website creation busines but I need to know what else is essential to know. I'm guessing ASP would be a must but not 100% sure. Also is there any tutorials or help offered on making the following; -Site search engine much like the gamedev one -Creating forums or small discussion chat rooms -file uploader. -changing the scroll bar colours
TANSTAAFL
TANSTAAFL
agreement.

leverage pre-existing web software whenever possible. there are many mature products, and most of the good ones are either free or very low cost, and practically all of them are skinnable.

and don't be afraid to have a forum at one of the forum hosting sites.
Get off my lawn!
leoptimus
leoptimus
Do you have the web server? If don't , I suggest you yahoo hosting service. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/

You'd need a content management system, and a database engine.

Tecnologies like PHP and MYSQL are enough for this. So you only have to learn PHP code, and then you will able to use the free avaliable libraries, for Make forums, search, user registration, contest, etc.
"Technocracy Rules With Supremacy" visit: http://gimpact.sourceforge.net
swiftcoder
swiftcoder
I would really suggest PHP instead of ASP, mainly because Linux servers are much more common than Windows servers, and ASP is Windows specific.
Tristam MacDonald. Ex-BigTech Software Engineer. Future farmer. [https://trist.am]
leoptimus
leoptimus
And PHP runs every where, also on your own computer.
Try this!!
http://www.easyphp.org/telechargements.php3
With this package, you can run your personal web server on your computer.
This include Apache, PHP and MySQL, ready for use.

For see your website on your computer, type http://localhost/
And for manage yout database, type http://localhost/mysql/

PHP is more desirable that ASP, because is platform independant, has the greatest collection of free libraries on the web, and supports templates and code generation. Also has a clean sintax. 90% of the web programmers on the world manage PHP.

So don't forget to visit www.php.net, and download the manual.
"Technocracy Rules With Supremacy" visit: http://gimpact.sourceforge.net
markr
markr
If you're planning on running on a Microsoft platform, use ASP.NET *NOT* ASP.

ASP is obsolete and should not be used for new projects. It's also extremely irritating in many ways:

- No decent debug support (You *CAN* use server-side debugging with script debugger or even VS.NET, but it's a bit of a kludge)
- No stack trace on error - this is really annoying! Even PHP has this now.
- Generally poor error handling - certainly in VBScript (and using JScript in ASP is daft, I know, I've done it (wasn't my decision))
- Tied to VBScript which sucks (see above)

Mark

gavco98
gavco98
It all depends on what you want to do. You could easily set up a web design business with only knowledge of HTML, however you will be restricting yourself to static webpages, and reducing your client base.

First off I would say CSS is a must, sure you can get by with using < font > tags etc, but its not a very clever way of doing it. Using CSS will reduce your file sizes, and make it a lot easier to change text colour etc if you ever need to. CSS is also what you use to change the colour of scroll bars, form buttons etc

I would also recommend learning a scripting labguage, whether it is ASP / PHP or even Perl. Personally I would recommend PHP. Sooner or later you are going to come across a client that needs something more advanced than a static HTML page. Dynamic sites are more complex, and therefore more profitable.

Besides the actual webdesign, I would recommend learning about web hosting, as being able to set up and configure the websites and server accounts is a major advantage, make sure you are familiar with transferring domains, configuring nameservers etc. Setting up and maintaining SQL databases is a handy skill too!
Gavin Coates
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swiftcoder
swiftcoder
Quote:
Original post by leoptimus
And PHP runs every where, also on your own computer.
Try this!!
http://www.easyphp.org/telechargements.php3
With this package, you can run your personal web server on your computer.
This include Apache, PHP and MySQL, ready for use.

For see your website on your computer, type http://localhost/
And for manage yout database, type http://localhost/mysql/


Or you could just buy a Mac [grin]
Apache with PHP ships on every machine, just fire up 'Personal web-sharing'.
Tristam MacDonald. Ex-BigTech Software Engineer. Future farmer. [https://trist.am]
Sander
Sander
Quote:
Original post by namingway
I plan to run a website creation busines but I need to know what else is essential to know.


Learn how to run a business. There's a *lot* more to that than you may think. Learn finance, book keeping, how to talk to clients, some marketing, the law and IRS rules, etcetera.

Raz Malone
Raz Malone
Another great php package is xampp: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html

It also comes with a ftp server, mail server and tomcat add-on. It comes in windows, linux, mac and Solaris.

A very nice package where as easyphp only comes packaged for windows, or at least that's the only version I could find.
jbadams
jbadams
Quote:
Original post by namingway
-changing the scroll bar colours

Don't. Your job is to design the page; the scrollbar is part of the browser. It'll be very rare for you to find people who'll complain about default coloured scrollbars, but if you change them and people don't like it you'll find it really stands out to them. It's hard to come up with a good colour scheme for them and doing so adds nothing to the user experience, so why bother?

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Site search engine

http://www.google.com/services/websearch.html

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Creating forums or small discussion chat rooms

Make good use of existing solutions instead. The code is more mature and has already had some testing, and you'll save a lot of time.


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I know HTML/XHTML, &#106avascript, VBscript and a bit of XML.

Learn CSS. Avoid unnecesary &#106avascript, and try to keep it to non-critical elements; note that if you follow that advice to the letter you'll probably never use any. [wink] Learn about accesibility.
- Jason Astle-Adams
namingway
namingway
I still would like to know how to do it all. so If you know a place to learn how to change the scroll bar colours that would be awesome
jbadams
jbadams
First result from Google... note how ugly the scrollbar on thier page is. [lol]

Oh and if you're going to do it that's CSS code, which you should also learn how to do and put the scrollbar code in with the rest of it.
- Jason Astle-Adams

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