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Witchcraven
Witchcraven
Amatuer rocketry is quickly becoming my new hobby. Especially in making the engines. I have been making potassium nitrate+sugar+sulphur rockets, and I have gotten a few decent engines out of it. The static tests were quite impressive, and very very loud. Today I tried to make a new fuel. I remembered for hybrid rockets they have used paraffin wax. So I thought I will try the sugar recipe, but with wax as the fuel. My hope was that it would have more energy than sugar, which I believe the wax does, it would make a non hygroscopic fuel (unlike sugar engines), and it would be easier to cast. My recipe was 63% potassium nitrate, 27% wax, 10% sulphur. I melted the ingredients togather well at 212 degrees F until it was one consistency. I then decided to try a burn test. I put a small amount of fuel on a spoon and stuck it in the dirt. I then stuck a flame uner the wax. And nothing much happened for about 5 minutes. I think regular wax is more flammable. The wax eventually turned black and crusty, and fizzled slightly once (which was probably a lucky clump of sulphur an oxidizer) So basically, what do I need to do to get this to work. It sure works with gasoline in place of sugar. I am in a college chemistry class, but we are not far enough yet for me to understand the problem at that level. I figure either the ratios need to be different, or some property of the wax prevents it from using the potassium nitrate ocidizer. Or maybe I just didnt melt the two togather long enough? Need to light it differently, with steel wool internally maybe?
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aaron_ds
aaron_ds
IICR, 2 KNO3 + S + 3C → K2S + N2 + 3CO is commonly used in model rocket engines.

Ammonium perchlorate powder combined with fine aluminium powder and binded with a stabilizing agent is a solid fuel used in modern rockets

Usually Paraffin+NO2 is used for hybrid rockets. The NO2 is stored in a liquid state. Hybrid rockets have a solid fuel and a liquid oxidizer.
Moe
Moe
Just out of curiosity, what ratio of potassium nitrate+sugar+sulphur were you originally using? You have got me curious to try this on my own now.
Witchcraven
Witchcraven
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Original post by Moe
Just out of curiosity, what ratio of potassium nitrate+sugar+sulphur were you originally using? You have got me curious to try this on my own now.


The one I posted is the original 63/27/10. Type in suggar rockets in google and click the link 5 cent sugr rockets. That is what I am starting from. I am just making bigger engines, like 30 gram ones.
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Witchcraven
Witchcraven
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Original post by aaron_ds
IICR, 2 KNO3 + S + 3C → K2S + N2 + 3CO is commonly used in model rocket engines.

Ammonium perchlorate powder combined with fine aluminium powder and binded with a stabilizing agent is a solid fuel used in modern rockets

Usually Paraffin+NO2 is used for hybrid rockets. The NO2 is stored in a liquid state. Hybrid rockets have a solid fuel and a liquid oxidizer.


Yeah, the NO2 is what me me want to try this. I figured if NO2, why not KNO3?

I may use AP and aluminum later. The main reason I am using sugar and KNO3 is because it is cheap and relativly safe.
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Witchcraven
Witchcraven
I think I found my answer:http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/28jan_envirorocket.htm

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In their design, the paraffin burns in the presence of pure oxygen gas. This alone causes it to burn much hotter than it does in air, which is only about 21% oxygen. That much had been done before. Karabeyoglu's innovation was to blow the oxygen past the melted surface of the paraffin fast enough to "whip up" this surface, like the ocean's choppy surface on a windy day. The "sea spray" of paraffin droplets that this kicks up burns very rapidly, tripling the combustion rate of the fuel


Back to the drawing board.
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kryat
kryat
DAMN!

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