I was watching O'Reilly earlier tonight, and he had a couple of commentators on discussing the ACORN tapes. The guy commentator - I can't remember his name, unfortunately - said that the film-makers had "by their own admission" tried to catch out "hundreds" of other offices and been turned away or had the police called on them. O'Reilly didn't know that (though the point was swiftly ignored, sadly). I can't find any actual source for the statement. Has anyone seen it? The closest I can find is Scott Levenson's statement in which he apparently says that they tried five other places and didn't get the same result (the link in question doesn't seem to have that part but I've seen a bunch of transcripts).

The ACORN tapes? Is that where they sent the posers in to catch ACORN breaking the law? Where they supposedly tell a hooker to list her occupation as "performance artist" or something like that? I don't waste time with O'Reilly, so I can't confirm what you saw.

You've probably figured out that the right wing has it in for ACORN (if not click here). ACORN organizes poor people, poor people of color usually, and it's effective. That makes it a priority target for the right wing. And President Obama once worked for ACORN, so they hate it for that too.

As for the tapes, the ACORN organizer on one of them says that the two actors used in the "gotcha" were not believable, that she thought they were spoofing so she played along with them. ACORN: Video repeatedly featured on Beck the result of "an obvious set of lies and manipulations"

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The ACORN tapes? Is that where they sent the posers in to catch ACORN breaking the law? Where they supposedly tell a hooker to list her occupation as "performance artist" or something like that? I don't waste time with O'Reilly, so I can't confirm what you saw.

Ah, OK. Watch the videos first - they're a bit samey, but they're interesting.

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Quote: You've probably figured out that the right wing has it in for ACORN (if not click here).

Yep, indeed. The important question is whether they've got good reason to want ACORN shut down.

Quote: ACORN organizes poor people, poor people of color usually, and it's effective.

Is it? How effective? Does it organize them in good ways, like helping to make sure they're represented and helping them build lives and careers, or does it organize them in bad ways, like helping them cheat the system to get extra benefits or to set up child prostitution rings? "Organized" isn't necessarily good - just look at the Mafia.

Quote: And President Obama once worked for ACORN, so they hate it for that too.

Yeah, I kinda wish the media would stop focusing so much on that part. It's not interesting.

Quote: As for the tapes, the ACORN organizer on one of them says that the two actors used in the "gotcha" were not believable, that she thought they were spoofing so she played along with them. ACORN: Video repeatedly featured on Beck the result of "an obvious set of lies and manipulations"

Interesting. I watched all the videos today, and I don't recall the San Bernardino one as having as much actual advice as the others; it focused mostly on the outrageous things Kaelke was saying. So, it's not impossible to believe that she was just "playing along," her way of dealing with "an intimidating and troubling experience" - and if that really is what she was doing, then ACORN have a problem in that their staff need to be better trained on how to deal with situations like this, because "playing along" is not handling it well. However, the other three offices weren't nearly so outrageous - the advice they gave seemed genuine.

How many offices would need to be shown to have a problem before you'd accept it as an institutional flaw in ACORN itself?

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ACORN organizes poor people, poor people of color usually, and it's effective. That makes it a priority target for the right wing.

Do conservatives also want to take grandma's medicine to feed their army of robots?

I recall Glenn Beck complaining that CNN only covered this 3 times while other news outlets covered it 1 or no times shortly after it broke.
ROFL!

Also: does this remind anyone else of

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ACORN organizes poor people, poor people of color usually, and it's effective. That makes it a priority target for the right wing.

Do conservatives also want to take grandma's medicine to feed their army of robots?

The hell are you talking about? Are you merely expressing skepticism about LB's claim?

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ACORN organizes poor people, poor people of color usually, and it's effective. That makes it a priority target for the right wing.

Do conservatives also want to take grandma's medicine to feed their army of robots?

Absolutely! That's why they voted in lockstep behind their fuhrer to dump a trillion dollars on big pharma back in 2003... [razz] [grin]

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ACORN organizes poor people, poor people of color usually, and it's effective. That makes it a priority target for the right wing.

Do conservatives also want to take grandma's medicine to feed their army of robots?

Absolutely! That's why they voted in lockstep behind their fuhrer to dump a trillion dollars on big pharma back in 2003... [razz] [grin]

You said you wouldn't tell!

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ACORN organizes poor people, poor people of color usually, and it's effective. That makes it a priority target for the right wing.

Do conservatives also want to take grandma's medicine to feed their army of robots?

The hell are you talking about? Are you merely expressing skepticism about LB's claim?

and questioning his motivations for saying it.

LessBread: What did you mean by "priority target"? Target for what? Gift baskets and puppy-grams?

I just found it weird that LB used such an antiquated and white-centric description...

The assertion that half the population are greedy and racist didn't seem out of character ;P