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Started by netkid Oct 20, 2001 at 3:11 PM 9 replies 850+ views
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netkid
netkid
Can Java make powerful games?? For the web?? java-script?? I have the book Visual Quickstart Java for the WWW. Is it a good book to learn the basics from?
WarMage
WarMage
The problem is that Java doesn''t have a very mature sound and control API and as I''m aware, does not have an API to Direct X. If you want to add joystick control and nice sound, you have to roll your own code for this, and that will be a major hassle for any beginning Java coder.

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...not that I condem your attempt!...
thurk
thurk
Actually Java has DirectX support, as well as OpenGL via the Java3D api. I would agree however that Java is lacking when it comes to sound. I will however say that I am not very familiar with java''s sound api''s.
WayfarerX
WayfarerX
Actually, Java does have a really sweet sound API in 1.3+, however Java 3D is not ready for prime-time, & there is no support for controllers besides the keyboard and mouse.

Games on the web made in Java can be really cool, but you''re not going to get the next Quake to happen. Also remember that Java support in the browser is (without the plugin) kinda fishy and really behind-the-times.

Skip java-script, it is not the same thing as Java.

I''ve never read the book you mentioned, but you might want to try either the Teach yourself Java in 21 Days books or The Java Tutorial.

"If consquences dictate our course of action, it doesn''t matter what''s right, it''s only wrong if you get caught."
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Wavinator
Wavinator
Looks like you want the Java Development Forum.

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Cyberdrek
Cyberdrek
OFF TOPIC..

quote:
Original post by WayfarerX


"If consquences dictate our course of action, it doesn''t matter what''s right, it''s only wrong if you get caught."
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Just a simple question about your signature, what Tool song is this from???...

Yes, I''m a big Tool fan.




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WayfarerX
WayfarerX
Opiate->Jerk Off

I see them live tomorrow...anticipation growing....arggg

"If consquences dictate our course of action, it doesn''t matter what''s right, it''s only wrong if you get caught."
- Tool

"There is no reason good should not triumph at least as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they're organized along the lines of the mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut
Foobat
Foobat
shaddap they were touring during my sodding exams the gits

sob sob

anywayze, there are a few nice examples of 3d java around can't remeber any links at the mo and i'm too lazy to look, i'm quite sure i found some throught this site hummmmm

oh yeah and Java is NOT java-script

anyone suggest any good books/resources for java3d?

Edited by - Foobat on October 21, 2001 6:35:10 PM
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WayfarerX
WayfarerX
I have returned from the concert alive, only slightly however. That was one of the most insane experiences of my life. Those guys blow my mind every time.

Java3D: I just bought the paperback version of the specification, covers pretty much everything.

"If consquences dictate our course of action, it doesn''t matter what''s right, it''s only wrong if you get caught."
- Tool

"There is no reason good should not triumph at least as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they're organized along the lines of the mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut
Soulice
Soulice
Check out javagaming.org. Oh and someone has done a Quake clone in J3D and you wont see much of a difference.

-Soulice
-Soulice
thurk
thurk
I believe some folks over at FullSail in Florida did the Quake Clone, or at least that is where I saw it. Looked pretty good.

I agree with WayfarerX: Java3D is probably your best bet at the moment for books on the 3D api. Also do a search on Java3D API at javasoft's site, somewhere hidden there they have a couple of demos you can download (with source). The only one I have looked at was a Tempest clone.

Also I think I remember there being quite a large thread on gamasutra about Java and games. I cant find it again though, which is too bad since it had posts from two of the folks from Sun in charge of hyping java as a viable game platform.

Hey found the links to the 3D demos...
Java 3D Demos


Edited by - thurk on October 22, 2001 5:52:53 PM

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