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Started by SKATIN_HARD Oct 12, 2005 at 7:13 PM 38 replies 2.9k views
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SKATIN_HARD
SKATIN_HARD
Well the new video iPod came out. It is priced at $299 base model. Do you think that the quality will be good enough and that people will actually use it to put video on? I also heard that not too many video choices are being offered yet. Did anybody order one yet? Or do you plan on getting one?
Oluseyi
Oluseyi
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I also heard that not too many video choices are being offered yet.

It just came out today. When the original iPod debuted, the only reason there was a lot of content was because people were already extensively using MP3s. In similar fashion, the most predominant form of early content is likely to be stupid video jokes (think ebaumsworld) and snippets from television shows ("More Cowbell!") that people already send to each other.

Also, it's not like the video iPod doesn't play music...

Anyway, you can purchase episodes of ABC television shows the day after they air. If that proves successful, you'll probably see every television network and cable channel eventually enter some form of agreement with Apple to place their content on iTAMS - speaking of which, will they have to change the name to de-emphasize "Music"? iTunes Apple Store? iTunes Apple Multimedia Store?
vrok137
vrok137
Whoa is Apple moving fast!! Just about a month ago they released the Nano. And just today I found out about their Video Ipod. Im afraid to upgrade my Ipod in fear that a new one will come out 2 weeks later [lol]. However, I am still a big fan of Apple. HORAAY FOR IPODS!!


OMG!! They made an ITunes 6!! I just updated to ITunes 5 yesterday!
SKATIN_HARD
SKATIN_HARD
I'm just surprised that they move product out that fast. I mean I just got the Nano and now that came out. iTunes is getting upgraded all the time now. Plus their hardware systems are getting better specs all the time. I think this might make some people upset if they just bought a product a few months ago. I also heard that there are only 2 iPods now. The Nano and the Video one. I guess the older models aren't going to be offered anymore like the iPod mini.
lethalhamster
lethalhamster
Oh boy! Another iPod! I'm going to have to spend another $300 to stay cool! This is awesome! Oh, also, I am going to have to shovel out another $1500 tommorow for the new iBook, then next week, I'm going to have to get the latest version of OS X, theres another $300. I just looovveeee too see them move this fast!

@Stupendous Man,
Innovative? You wish. They are waayyyy behind iRiver and Creative with the whole PMP (portable media player). But, the new iPod is smaller, and cheaper than Creative and iRivers PMP's. The screen is way to small though, I don't think the iPod is meant to be a PMP, and should stay an MP3 player.
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Xtremehobo
Xtremehobo
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One of the best ways to increase your user base is to continually come out with new and innovative products. Right now, Apple and Google are the masters of multimedia and internet innovation when it comes to consumer choices. Keep the competition coming, the only thing that can come from it is more great products like the iPod and Google Earth.


Apple's iPod products are neither "new", nor particularly innovative. Small portable media players supporting video have been out for more than a year now; Apple is behind.

They do have a strong marketing department however.
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vrok137
vrok137
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Whoa is Apple moving fast!! Just about a month ago they released the Nano. And just today I found out about their Video Ipod. Im afraid to upgrade my Ipod in fear that a new one will come out 2 weeks later [lol]. However, I am still a big fan of Apple. HORAAY FOR IPODS!!


OMG!! They made an ITunes 6!! I just updated to ITunes 5 yesterday!

vrok137,

One of the best ways to increase your user base is to continually come out with new and innovative products. Right now, Apple and Google are the masters of multimedia and internet innovation when it comes to consumer choices. Keep the competition coming, the only thing that can come from it is more great products like the iPod and Google Earth.

I know most of today's innovation is all about increasing net profits and market share, but let's pretend it's all about the people. [smile]


Hmmm.... Im just not used to a company churning out products this fast. Apple is probably the first company I've seen that upgrades their product base so fast. I love Apple for it's efforts to make technology simple and shall I say, sexy[cool].

We need more Apple and Linux stuff in this world, the only reason I am sticking with Windows is cause of the HUGE array of Apps that require Windows. If this base was to switch to Apple, I will totally dump the whole Microsoft franchise.
darkchrono4
darkchrono4
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Original post by vrok137We need more Apple and Linux stuff in this world, the only reason I am sticking with Windows is cause of the HUGE array of Apps that require Windows. If this base was to switch to Apple, I will totally dump the whole Microsoft franchise.



Somehow I think if Apple was to become the number one company it would probably fall into the same line as Microsoft is now. And then everybody would be pining for the "old days" when Microsoft was so cool.
Oluseyi
Oluseyi
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We need more Apple and Linux stuff in this world...

No, we don't.

We need more platform agnostic stuff. We need more open standards. We need more interoperable technologies. We need more compatible formats. We need an IT ecosystem that allows you to select equipment and software on the basis of how it addresses your needs, without locking you in and preventing you from seamlessly cooperating with others with different setups.

Ironically, Microsoft is the big company taking steps in this direction. The .NET CLR, XAML, Office 12 XML formats, adopting open standards, becoming friendly toward open source - and releasing some of their own software as open source... I think their strategy is to provide the best experience simply by providing the best software, but to allow your content and applications (eventually) migrate freely.

Apple does some very good things, and some very bad and annoying things. The OS X website, for instance, claims that you can seamlessly add an OS X machine to a Windows domain and share and consume file and print resources. This is half true. You can, but you first have to disable encrypted SMB connections on the server, something Apple carefully omits to mention.

Either way, I think that consumers are becoming sophisticated and inherently technical enough that lock-in and lock-out are no longer viable long-term growth strategies for IT vendors, which is a Good Thing™. Ultimately, we shouldn't need to care about "Apple stuff" or "Windows stuff"; we should only care about our stuff.
Promit
Promit
Boring.

Completely boring. And over hyped. Just like every god damn thing Apple does. At least Google usually deserves the praise.

Basically, Apple's innovation is that they're going to link it into the iTunes store, and sell...well, probably music videos. No particular innovation in hardware, although they're getting credit for breaking ground anyway.

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As for the new iMac upgrades, holy smokes! Definitely a media lovers dream box right now. Front Row looks superb for those with limited space but a love of media. The included remote and interface is great for when you have a few friends over at the flat and have just downloaded your episode of lost. Everyone plop on the bed or couch and enjoy! The built-in iSight is another fantastic inclusion. While not many people I know have an iSight, it's great for one-way video chats if you have documents, drawings, models or other things to show the person on the other end. It saves on overall cost and provides a great way to share your ideas (and have some fun with the new Photo Booth application).

How very interesting...except Windows PCs have been capable of this for years, of course. All of it. The remotes, the iSight, it's all been done. Yet Apple does it and suddenly they're the greatest thing the computer industry has ever seen.

*Yawn*
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lethalhamster
lethalhamster
Didn't you get the memo, promit? Everything Apple does now is new and innovative. They even invented the color white, remember?
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BitBlt
BitBlt
I think it'd be pretty neat if you could subscribe to a season of shows for a discounted price instead of paying however much per episode.

I checked on the Apple website and it doesn't say anything, but what video formats can you load onto the iPod, just purchased ones?
lethalhamster
lethalhamster
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I think it'd be pretty neat if you could subscribe to a season of shows for a discounted price instead of paying however much per episode.

I checked on the Apple website and it doesn't say anything, but what video formats can you load onto the iPod, just purchased ones?


I dont know, but a TV Tuner + any PMP would be awesome. I almost had a Creative Zen PMP, but... I had to get rid of it(my parents weren't happy with my grades).
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TraderJack
TraderJack
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Didn't you get the memo, promit? Everything Apple does now is new and innovative. They even invented the color white, remember?


And the two button mouse.

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BitBlt
BitBlt
I just tried iTunes 6 and it lets you load mp4 and mov videos, so anything besides purchased stuff you'd have to convert to .mov.

Now it's time to see if iTunes 6 works with my iPod (iTunes 5 for Windows doesn't).
vrok137
vrok137
Well you have to give Apple credit, they did a swell job in "reinventing the wheel" and making it a sought after icon.

After sitting at my computer and thinking for 38 seconds, it dawned on me that what makes Apple so famous:

* marketing

* heavy use of the color white & silver (research shows that these colors, when applied, increase the chance of the viewer to feel more at ease and less visually stressed toward the compostion of the object)

* Microsoft's diminishing reputation



Even after thinking about all this, I am still quite attracted to Apple. Why?? Because I love their Ipods and mac's!! My cute little Ipod mini outbeats all those black, bulky, buttony mp3 players out there. ooh raah [lol]
Conner McCloud
Conner McCloud
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Original post by Promit
How very interesting...except Windows PCs have been capable of this for years, of course. All of it. The remotes, the iSight, it's all been done. Yet Apple does it and suddenly they're the greatest thing the computer industry has ever seen.

Apple has proven quite adept at bundling. Sure, PCs have had cameras for years. But they came separate. End users [who, I suspect we can all agree, are idiots] not only have to buy the camera, they have to figure out how to make it work.

Apple is building them right into the laptop. Turn it on, and go.

It really doesn't matter if they're the first...they make it easy, and they make people want to do it. Which makes them successful.

CM
vrok137
vrok137
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Original post by Promit
How very interesting...except Windows PCs have been capable of this for years, of course. All of it. The remotes, the iSight, it's all been done. Yet Apple does it and suddenly they're the greatest thing the computer industry has ever seen.

Apple has proven quite adept at bundling. Sure, PCs have had cameras for years. But they came separate. End users [who, I suspect we can all agree, are idiots] not only have to buy the camera, they have to figure out how to make it work.

Apple is building them right into the laptop. Turn it on, and go.

It really doesn't matter if they're the first...they make it easy, and they make people want to do it. Which makes them successful.

CM


I couldn't have said it any better [smile].

CobraMantis
CobraMantis
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Original post by Promit
Boring.

Completely boring. And over hyped. Just like every god damn thing Apple does.

...

Yet Apple does it and suddenly they're the greatest thing the computer industry has ever seen.

Overhyped by whom? A guy who's excited about it on a message board? Your suggestion is for Apple to stop moving forward, or what? You sound like someone who spells Microsoft with a dollar sign.

I like that you can purchase TV shows soon after they air, and I'm looking forward to having more of a selection in the future, but right now it's a bit immature (which is understandable for the moment, until the waters have been tested). Obviously a broader selection will come with time, but I hope they add video content that's not specifically tailored for viewing on an iPod. At the moment the video content is meant to be played specifically on the iPod's tiny screen, I guess, because I think the TV episodes are only available in its (very low) screen resolution. I'd be interested in higher resolution TV shows / movies, though I s'pose they'd probably have to transfer via some peer-to-peer solution for bandwith cost reasons.

Oluseyi
Oluseyi
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* heavy use of the color white & silver (research shows that these colors, when applied, increase the chance of the viewer to feel more at ease and less visually stressed toward the compostion of the object)

The black iPod nano is outselling the white. Customizing Apple hardware products by painting them colors other than white is a brisk, booming business.

That said, Apple has stunning industrial design.

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