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X-men 3: The Last Stand [SPOILERS]

Started by INFINITE LIGHT May 27, 2006 at 6:33 PM 49 replies 6.7k views
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INFINITE LIGHT
INFINITE LIGHT
#1 reason to see this movie: THE JUGGERNAUT SAID IT! HE FUCKING SAID IT!!! I JUST ASSUMED THAT WEREN'T GOING TO DO IT!!! BUT THEY DID IT!!! Movie Tier List Broken 0: The Phoenix aka Da Broken Bitch ( I just started calling her da broken bitch mid point through the movie and just kept going) Top Tier 1.)Charles (every since the juggernaut bitch flash everybody calls him Charles instead of prof X) 2.) Magneto 3.)Juggernaut 4.) Collesseus 5.) Wolverine 6.) Storm Low Tier Porcupine Mutant - He had to hug you to kill you. Shits lamer than Elliot. I'm not gonna do mid tier and all that shit, but i know this guy is low... Elliot low. _________________________ _________________________ In any case let us notice the reoccurring theme in all three movies. In the first movie Magneto tried to turn all humans into mutants but failed. In the second movie humans tried to kill all mutants, and then mutants tried to kill all humans. Then finally in the third movie humans tried to turn all mutants into human. Each time they tried to solve the problem by making one race the other or getting rid of a complete and other side. But like the movies showed that is not the answer. Each and every time they tried to the opposite end of an extreme. The extreme of all should be humans, the extreme that all should be mutants. Some answers aren't always completely white, or completely black. The humans and the mutants should live together peacefully (like Charles wants). Because consider this. Just like how we are reaching critical mass in population unlike anytime before and are estimated to have a 9.5 billion population by the time of 2050. Their will be a time that in a 100 or 150 years that every person on that dimensions planet will be a mutant. if they are truly the next human evolution like they are then more and more children will be born mutant until everybody on the planet is mutant. But those unblessed with powers should not try to stop or fight against the intelligent design of this situation. They should live in harmony until that day occurs. But sadly their will be constant drama so beings such as the x-men must continue to fight against opposing viewpoints and discrimination. Just like the time period where blacks were extremely discriminated against which gave rise to such leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King and Malcolm X the X-men live in such a world. But their are differences. For one that time period will last a lot longer. Instead of them fighting and proving that they are just as good they are obviously superior and they fight against racism brought upon by fear. The major difference being that their will always be different races thus racism will exist for the ignorant but sooner or later in that world everyone will become a mutant and their plight shall in. a new concepts that mutants will have to face is the concepts that govern individuality. individuality used to be shown simply through personality, through actions, threw looks. But now a new plateu of individuality has arrived to defrenciate. Ones power. Once the issue of humans vs. mutants is over and we realize that we are the same race 100 years from now then a new trouble will arise. A society could of evolved humans, now accepting powers as the norm could begin judging society by those powers. Those who have strong powers are respected and feared and those with weak ones are laughed at and shunned. Those unlucky who are burn human will be shunned and ridiculed. Be victims of racism. For unlike when the blacks were prosecuted about being the inferior race the children of the future would be right. A human child would be inferior. __________ notice how magneto talked of looking out for only mutant kind and crushing all humans. But he lacked compassion for even his mutant kind. Although his mutant brothers he fought on his side for an ideal was fighting he called them pawns and cared not about their fate. Watching mercilessly as they die and look at how he treated Mystique. Mystique was so dedicated to the cause that she without thought risked her life and lost her powers for magneto. although she was then not a mutant and no longer can go with you is acceptable. But to turn your back on her and to not show her the gratitude that she deserves for risking her life and losing her powers for the ideal and for you is a despicable and unhonorable trait regardless of if it is a human or a mutant to a human or mutant. Magneto's vision at first was flawed. Even still he lacked the compassion and love towards all his kind that a great leader should possess. His logic that mutants was that mutants were the superior race, thus they should rule the earth. Although he cared about his mutant brothern. His justification for his coldness was that their must be sacrafices for the cause. 5-27-06: Edited by Ravuya. I don't like spoilers [crying] [Edited by - JustOwninDaFINALBOSS on May 28, 2006 1:44:38 AM]
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fadilthrejk
fadilthrejk
Here's a cool YTMND I made in celebration of the movie, it's alright even if you haven't seen it. No spoilers here:

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Nypyren
Nypyren
[Spoilers]

My #1 gripe is that Magneto should have used the bridge as a battering ram to completely crush Alcatraz instead of the typical "now let's run in!".

I mean, you can stop mutants, but you can't stop the entire damn Golden Gate Bridge once it gets moving!

Other than that tactical oversight by Magneto, the movie was worth watching.
fadilthrejk
fadilthrejk
And oh yeah, since Magneto eventually got his powers back, I assume all the other mutants will too (including Mystique).

and you all saw the clip at the end, right? (after the credits)
Promit
Promit
Before I read that blob --

Any spoilers?
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ArchWizard
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Before I read that blob --

Any spoilers?


Yes, there are lots of spoilers.
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Way Walker
Way Walker
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[Spoilers]

My #1 gripe is that Magneto should have used the bridge as a battering ram to completely crush Alcatraz instead of the typical "now let's run in!".

I mean, you can stop mutants, but you can't stop the entire damn Golden Gate Bridge once it gets moving!

Other than that tactical oversight by Magneto, the movie was worth watching.


Which bridge is it? In the previews I thought it was the Golden Gate Bridge, but I saw a couple reviews saying it was the Bay Bridge (a.k.a. the Wrong Color Bridge).

bugboy
bugboy
I thought the battle scene on Alactraz was over-dramatized and impractical. The soldiers waited until the mutants were fifty feet away until they opened fire, where in real life they would have been shooting as soon as they could.

Also it was really stupid how they fire one volley with their artillery and then when Magneto blocks it with his chunks of metal the soldiers totally cease to do anything from that point on. In real life there would be a constant barrage of darts from the various launchers they had and I guarantee one of them would have gotten through.

Not to mention that the soldiers would probably be on plastic skiffs with dart-firing machines guns and gunned the crap out of magnetos horde before they even destroyed the bridge. Not to mention that Magneto should have been killed back in X1 for slaughtering countless innocents instead of put in that idiotic plastic prison.

Also, Magneto didn't do all he could. All he had to do was pick up a metal saw blade and start chopping through the ranks of soldiers.

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Scint
Scint
*** AHOY SPOILERS AHEAD ***

I wonder why, when Prof X went to Grey's house and passed right by Juggernaut, he didn't even bother to say, "Hey bro, long time no see!" But then in this alternate X-men they probably decided to drop that detail. Also when Magneto's army was attacking, Magneto held back Juggernaut from fighting early. Juggernaut isn't even a mutant, the 'cure' weapon would be useless against him. But then when Juggernaut was going after the bald kid, when he got close he lost his wall smashing ability, so they seem to have made him a mutant. They did that with Lady Deathstrike in X2 as well -- she is not supposed to be a mutant IIRC.

One thing they might have tricked us on (but probably not) was Mystique's cure. She can morph into anything. What if the dart was a fake, and she only pretended to be normal, with only Magneto in-the-know as well as that guard who was obliterated? Then later she gives the army false information on Magneto's whereabouts, which ended up happening? Unfortunately that would probably be too smart for this movie.

When they strapped Angel to the thing for his cure shot, I thought for a moment they might actually do an Apocalypse storyline, and have him become Archangel, but that didn't happen.
fadilthrejk
fadilthrejk
Why would the guards carry around a fake cure?


It probably just wears off, explaining Magneto getting his powers back.
Frequency
Frequency
For this being the "Last Stand", I find it amusing that the plotline has advanced pretty much zero.
Score before X3: Magneto alive w/ powers, Charles alive w/ powers, Jean alive, Cyclops alive.
Score after X3: Magneto alive w/ powers, Charles probably back and w/ powers, Jean is dead but she's already come back from the dead once before, Cyclops is dead but who knows? he could come back too since two characters have already done it.

On another subject: Am I the only one that wants to shoot whoever wrote the script whenever two good guys exchange witty but time-consuming dialog in the middle of a struggle for their lives? If I was having flaming cars thrown at me I would not be making punny jokes with the guy being shot at next to me. Happened MULTIPLE times in the last Alcatraz scene. Ugh.

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I grinned SO wide when I heard Juggernaut say that line. [grin]

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PunaProgrammer chris
PunaProgrammer chris
Hmm... the director seems too have said that's going too be the last X-Men film, while a couple of the stars of the series seem to be saying the oposite, while an exec at Fox is saying that it's not the last X-Men film, but it's the end of the trilogy... not sure who (whom?) to belive. Maybe the next movie (not conting the upcoming Wolverine and Magneto films) will be an X-Factor movie taking place during Inferno. All the original X-Men (as well as most other necesaary major characters) have been introduced into the films by now, and I wouldn't be suprised if Cyclops is still alive (considering they never actually showed him die, and that he's now done filming Superman Returns) and if Jean is alive too (something follwing the plot of the beggining of X-Factor would work here. Now the only character left to bring in is Mister Sinister...
Wow, I think I'm done rambling now.

Edit: My grammer nazi split personality fixed some stuff. With its uncontrollable psychic mutant powers.
Salsa
Salsa
Seeing as Iceman is my favorite character, I really wish he had more screen-time, and his final bout with Pyro was just a bit too rushed. I also wish Colossus did a bit more than turn Wolverine into a projectile. Kelsey Grammer as Beast was absolutely perfect, I cannot believe how well they pulled it off.

If they make a fourth movie, I think the best possible thing for them to do is introduce Bishop and cover his plotline. It would be incredible easy to transition into his story, and would also leave room for introducing other major characters like Gambit (who develops an extensive relationship with Bishop).
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python_regious
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and you all saw the clip at the end, right? (after the credits)


No... What happened?
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fadilthrejk
fadilthrejk
remember the comatose guy who Xavier was talking about putting a cancer patient's consciousness in?


well Xavier put his in there.
Mattman
Mattman
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remember the comatose guy who Xavier was talking about putting a cancer patient's consciousness in?


well Xavier put his in there.


Wait...this happened after the credits???!?!?! DAMNIT!! If only I wasn't rushed from the theater to sneak into The DaVinci Code...
Mattman
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remember the comatose guy who Xavier was talking about putting a cancer patient's consciousness in?


well Xavier put his in there.


Wait...this happened after the credits???!?!?! DAMNIT!! If only I wasn't rushed from the theater to sneak into The DaVinci Code...


Okay, for anyone else who didn't see the post-credits seen, I found a poor-quality video of it...
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cowsarenotevil
cowsarenotevil
I just saw it. It was fairly good, but I agree with whoever said that nothing actually happened.

Also, can someone remind me of what happened to Nightcrawler? He didn't seem to be in this movie despite his large part in the previous one.

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