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Announcement: Site Status

Started by BBB Jul 6, 2006 at 3:09 PM 55 replies 25.3k views
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BBB
BBB
Great news! A highly skilled and motivated team has been formed to manage and further develop NeHe. Our first mission is to replace the old lessons (which will still be available for download) with new and improved versions that provide more in-depth explanations, cover material which may have previously been skimmed over or left out in more detail, and demonstrate good programming practices. New lessons will also be written, but for now the focus is on creating a solid foundation to build upon in the earlier lessons. We will intend to continue the tradition of focusing on OpenGL but will also cover related areas where appropriate. Finally, we will make sure our new lessons are as cross-platform and build-system-independent as possible to make it easier for those who may be using different tools. Achieving this should be much easier thanks to improved basecodes being written for the lessons. We are currently writing the first lessons and deciding important aspects like coding standards, as well as updating the back-end code of the website to make future updates a more streamlined process. If you have any more questions and/or suggestions feel free to ask on the forums or contact me directly. Cheers // BBB, PR-guy for NeHe.
pheonix2468
pheonix2468
Nice, im looking forward to whatever you guys acheive with NeHe.
sspeedy
sspeedy
sweet news.

curious: when will these 'old' lessons be replaced? I only ask because I just started on 'em ;)
lc_overlord
lc_overlord
Don't know, soon, when they are done, we are currently doing the first few and they could in theory be done in a week or two, though this depends on how many we want to include on the release day, then there is the whole web site bit of witch i know little about.

But do the old ones anyway, it will take some time for us to get them on-line, and when we do, i do think it would be a + to have done some of the old ones.
Also there is the fact that only a few ones will be available at day one, perhaps up to lesson 5-10(maybe more).
Taharez
Taharez
Sounds great, I've been waiting for this news. A question about the website, is it going to be changed into the GDNet layout/scheme, or is it going to be the same type of layout as now? If the latter, will my themes still be compatible, because I'm quite used to using my blue/white one on NeHe now :)
Caste
Caste
I think at first we want to leave the style of the webpage untouched, we only change the content.
And as lc_overlord said, ther wil be less then 10 lessons posted at the release day, because we nerly finished the basecode and the code for the first lessons... No explanations yet, so plase be patient and read the old ones.
MVP
MVP
Awesome news, can't wait for the updates!

If you need any help with the website I would be happy to help, I do HTML/CSS/PHP/JS.
lc_overlord
lc_overlord
All good points, but.

1. yes we allready do use modern c++, strings, SDL and so on (and glut for some reason) for the new lessons.
2. the website is being redesigned, but to what degree i can't say for shure.

Sidenote:The cookies are only used for saving witch theme you are currently using, nothing evil, and yes 1024x768 works, i even think 800x600 will work, but the smaller the screen res the harder it is to read.

lshadow
lshadow
So the base code is being revamped?

Well I have a modified Linux/GLX base code as I had some problems with the original. I implemented a callback system with the key presses so the base didn't need to be touched. I also fixed the fullscreen implementation as artifacts occured and textures were lost.

So should I submit what I have or wait for the new base code and try to model after it?
Working on: DoP
drBones
drBones
Quote:
Original post by BBB
We are currently writing the first lessons and deciding important aspects like coding standards, as well as updating the back-end code of the website to make future updates a more streamlined process.

well it's been almost 3 months since the annoucement, does't it realy take this long?
Sorry for the sarcasm, but with the pace like this we won't see anything new on the site, any news maybe, some new posts?
Pet
jbadams
jbadams
Quote:
Original post by Pet
well it's been almost 3 months since the annoucement, does it realy take this long?
Not a problem, personally I understand your concern and I'm sure everyone (the NeHe team included) would rather we were able to release content sooner.

However, we'd like to maintain the excellent standard that both NeHe and GameDev.Net have previously demonstrated and want to provide you with nothing short of the best material we can produce on the subject, and unfortunately that does take quite some time.

To give you an idea of what has been going on, we've had to organise the team of volunteers and have assigned roles to the members as appropriate and set up an internal development/review/release cycle to ensure our content is as ready for the public as possible. In addition, the volunteers have developed a new code-base from scratch, and have been working at a set of initial tutorials based on this new and improved code that is nearly ready for a beta release.

The back-end code of the site itself is being cleaned up (I believe this is nearly completed, although this is certainly not an official announcement to that effect), and while this won't produce any readily visible changes to users of the NeHe site it will make maintenance and future updates of the site significantly easier and could potentially lead to the easier development and deployment of further improvements in future.


Additional content and updates are coming, and we're sorry that we're unable to give more visible indications of this, but as someone with knowledge of what the development team is doing I'd ask to give them a little more patience; it's a slow process, but we'd rather take the extra time than give you an inferior product that doesn't live up to your expectations of the NeHe site.
- Jason Astle-Adams
Joviex
Joviex
So.....

You said a couple of days way back a month ago. I don't see any updates? Or is there a new link to the beta area?
drBones
drBones
tell you what... I'm concerned about the site right now not because I can benefit somthing from it, well... that too, but I remember back in a day I was probably one of the first persons to 'everyday-check' the site: read/write posts, learn from tutorials, write them and be concerned about Nehe's personal life, although I never met him either personally or over the phone/email. I just felt grateful someone put a pice of his life and heart in this work - alone.
Now it's a pity its like 3 monts since last news post.
Maybe I could help anyhow?
Pet
Joviex
Joviex
Quote:
Original post by Pet
tell you what... I'm concerned about the site right now not because I can benefit somthing from it, well... that too, but I remember back in a day I was probably one of the first persons to 'everyday-check' the site: read/write posts, learn from tutorials, write them and be concerned about Nehe's personal life, although I never met him either personally or over the phone/email. I just felt grateful someone put a pice of his life and heart in this work - alone.
Now it's a pity its like 3 monts since last news post.
Maybe I could help anyhow?


I agree.

If it was still the old school site, one/two people working on it, I wouldn't have said anything. But since recently a big deal has been made that a team is working on this, and the last update was 3+ months ago....

If you guys need help?

I am not dying or refreshing it every 2 seconds, but I was curious to see the new design and code layouts FWIW.

cowsarenotevil
cowsarenotevil
I'm going to guess that the last three posts are all from the same person, in which case I'll say: Be a little patient. I'm sure most people want there to be updates soon.
-~-The Cow of Darkness-~-
drBones
drBones
ok... hear this why not give some of us access to the site so it develops on its own as usual, maybe some tutorias or articles will appear - and as soos as you develop new layout/content the take away it from us???

just a thought ;)
Pet
Todo
Todo
How about transforming NeHe into a public wiki. Wiki's tend to shape naturally over time. Anybody could then refresh any of the tuts as they so desire. Add content, ports, images, etc.
drBones
drBones
great - now all we can see is more ads :(
Pet

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