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Started by Silvermyst Aug 10, 2007 at 8:56 PM 27 replies 7.7k views
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Silvermyst
Silvermyst
Couple of us got together and designed this ad in tomorrow's Ames Tribune edition. We had about 24 hours to put it together, so I think we did a pretty nice job. There's plans on using the image for more general purposes though (taking out the VOTE IN AMES STRAW POLL). It's hard to get honest feedback from RP supporters, but I'm sure I can find some tough critics over here. Give it your best shot!
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Adraeus
Adraeus
Looks great. How did you create the mosaic? You also might consider pitching a story about the ad/poster to the press. I can imagine reading a newspaper article about grassroots volunteer action.
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
He wants to eliminate the department of education and let states regulate education all by themselves.


Do you understand what this madness means?


Half of this country will finally be able to ban things like that damned science.


... Think about it. Do we REALLY want this country getting stupider than it already is?


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sanguineraven
sanguineraven
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Original post by MithrandirDo you understand what this madness means?

madness? THIS. IS. SPARTA!
speciesUnknown
speciesUnknown
Putting all political issues aside for the duration of this comment.

Nice advert for the following reasons:
the text is old school, calligraphy always looks good
The yellow background contributes to the old school campaign poster look.
The mosaic demonstrates that the candidate has popular support

The mosaic needs a higher resolution. At first glance i thought it was Bush... Perhaps because I'm not from the US, I didn't recoognize RP for several seconds. Perhaps if you reduce the size of each tile and move it closer to the center, so theres a shorter fade off into the background and more tiles on the face.

Spelling mistake:

"Ordinary Americans that support ..."

should be
"Ordinary Americans WHO support ..."


Saying no to amnesty? Are you sure? I'm not familiar with the political interpretation of that over in the states, are you referring to any particular organization? Amnesty is generally considered a good thing. Will people vote against something with positive connotations?

Good quote at the bottom. Should appeal to both sides of the political fence.

Just my two Pence / 4 cents :->
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speciesUnknown
speciesUnknown
Now THIS comment contains my real political views.

This guy is a bandwagon jumping nutter.

Sorry.
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Kevinator
Kevinator
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He wants to eliminate the department of education and let states regulate education all by themselves.
This is the number one reason I'll vote for him.

Not to derail, sorry.

I really like the poster. Good work on it.
Silvermyst
Silvermyst
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How did you create the mosaic?

I think they said it was some $35 software that allows you to input up to 64,000 pics, and it automatically sorts those photos into the main photo.
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The mosaic needs a higher resolution.

It does. We had it at a higher resolution originally, but with only about 1,500 uploaded pictures at the time, it meant each image would duplicate 10-15 times. I think they decided to lower the resolution to avoid the "See, those Ron Paul supporters spam even their own mosaic pictures" critique. See this image to see what a higher resolution might look like.

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Ordinary Americans WHO support

Thanks! :)
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Amnesty is generally considered a good thing.

Over here, it means giving citizenship to 10-30 million "illegal" aliens. Personally not all that opposed to it.
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This guy is a bandwagon jumping nutter.

That's gotta be some old bandwagon, because even those that dislike his views will most likely agree that he's held his views for decades.
You either believe that within your society more individuals are good than evil, and that by protecting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible, or you believe that within your society more individuals are evil than good, and that by limiting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible.
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
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Original post by Kevinator
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He wants to eliminate the department of education and let states regulate education all by themselves.
This is the number one reason I'll vote for him.

Not to derail, sorry.

I really like the poster. Good work on it.



Ok. Have fun living in a country where our kids are taught that we were created by an invisible jealous angry man in the sky 6000 years ago and that dinosaurs were our pets and were vegetarians.

The rest of the world will be passing us in leaps and bounds. Has anyone ever stopped to wonder WHY companies like Microsoft and Google are desperately trying to get foreign workers to move here en masse? Our education is a joke and will only become more of a joke if we let half of our states teach their retarded anti-knowledge.

If anything, this country needs a BIGGER education system.
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Mithrandir
Mithrandir
Also, Ron Paul supports going back to the gold standard. ROFL. What a joke he is.
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Silvermyst
Silvermyst
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Also, Ron Paul supports going back to the gold standard.

I don't think that was on any of the different images of the ad. If it was, it would've been incorrect.

You either believe that within your society more individuals are good than evil, and that by protecting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible, or you believe that within your society more individuals are evil than good, and that by limiting the freedom of individuals within that society you will end up with a society that is as fair as possible.
ExcessNeo
ExcessNeo
How can he promise "secure borders" with "no taxes"?
curtmax_0
curtmax_0
I think the ad makes him look like some grinning mad scientist. Er, well he always looks like a mad scientist :) Good reason to vote for him ;)

Looks good though. I don't see why people are up in arms about eliminating the federal control of education. We've done it for half a decade. News flash! IT DOESN'T WORK!!! So what if people aren't taught 'science' and stuff? They aren't being taught NOW, even though we have federal controlled education.

Also, I went to private schools and was home schooled for a period of time, and was still taught 'science' and evolution and stuff. I say 'science' in quotes, as I was taught what the public generally accepts 'science' to be: A collection of pointless facts. In fact, I took several college physics, chemistry and biology courses while still in high school. I was taught how to think using the scientific method as well, which is real science. Orwell wrote a good article on that subject: What is Science?

Orwell had a rather striking prediction:

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... scientific education for the masses will do little good, and probably a lot of harm, if it simply boils down to more physics, more chemistry, more biology, etc., to the detriment of literature and history. Its probable effect on the average human being would be to narrow the range of his thoughts and make him more than ever contemptuous of such knowledge as he did not possess: and his political reactions would probably be somewhat less intelligent than those of an illiterate peasant who retained a few historical memories and a fairly sound aesthetic sense.


In addition, Ron Paul doesn't want to eliminate taxes completely. You obviously haven't been paying attention to facts. He advocates the elimination of income tax, which is an extremely draconian form of taxation. Almost 100% of the income tax in the US is used to pay off national debt anyways. Almost all of the services the government provides are funded through real-estate tax, sales tax, etc. The military is funded by corporate income tax... which he wouldn't eliminate.

Also, what's the problem with the gold standard. I don't think he ever said he would eliminate the current 'funny money fiat worthless paper' standard, but that he would simply provide an alternative government-backed money based on the gold standard, and let the market decide which one they use. What's so bad about the gold standard anyways? I've never heard any arguments against it except that "ZOMG GOLD STANDARD LOL!!~~~" Even if it creates problems in distribution of cash or something like that, it does do one important thing well: It prevents the government from taxing people through inflation (yes, inflation is a tax).

I'm willing to be inconvenienced a bit to ensure the government has one less way to screw me over.
Silvermyst
Silvermyst
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How can he promise "secure borders" with "no taxes"?

Good point. There was some discussion about putting "no federal income taxes" but it didn't quite as strong an effect as "no taxes".
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curtmax_0
curtmax_0
I think the problem is more than just 'secure borders'. While secure borders are nice and all, the real problem needs to be addressed first: Getting law enforcement agencies to stop ignoring immigration problems. INS simply releases illegals back into the country even if local law enforcement tries to round them up. But hell, if you are an illegal and a police department knows about it, they don't do anything. It's ridiculous; no other class of criminals gets ignored by the police.

Also, it might be taken as a bit of a lie putting 'no taxes' on the poster. I mean, obviously some amount of taxes are needed for a government to function, and having 'no taxes' might make him sound like a nutter.
ExcessNeo
ExcessNeo
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In addition, Ron Paul doesn't want to eliminate taxes completely. You obviously haven't been paying attention to facts. He advocates the elimination of income tax, which is an extremely draconian form of taxation. Almost 100% of the income tax in the US is used to pay off national debt anyways. Almost all of the services the government provides are funded through real-estate tax, sales tax, etc. The military is funded by corporate income tax... which he wouldn't eliminate.


I had never ever heard of Ron Paul before i read this thread, so the only thing i knew about him was what the picture at the top says, which without knowing who he was never mind about details of his presidential promise shows that I have been paying attention to facts, it's just they have been laid out in a form that can easily be misinterpreted.
d000hg
d000hg
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Original post by MithrandirOk. Have fun living in a country where our kids are taught that we were created by an invisible jealous angry man in the sky 6000 years ago and that dinosaurs were our pets and were vegetarians.
Oh blah blah. If you can't make your point without exaggerating totally - dumb as I think not teaching about evolutionary theory is, you sound even dumber in your attempt to mock them. And you imply schools should not teach about religion at all, which would increase America's lack of culture even further.

d000hg
d000hg
And I thought it was well-established science that dinosaurs were our pets. Didn't you see The Flintstones?
Adraeus
Adraeus
Cut the pseudopolitical chatter. This topic's about the design of an ad, and not the message. If you don't like the message, that's fine, but I guarantee you there are creatives at ad agencies right now working their asses off on projects of which they strongly disapprove. How do they do it? They're professionals.
ExcessNeo
ExcessNeo
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I guarantee you there are creatives at ad agencies right now working their asses off on projects of which they strongly disapprove. How do they do it? They're paid professionals.


You missed one word out.

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