Community posts that boggle my mind...

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25 comments, last by JoeJ 8 months ago

JoeJ said:
Your creative attempts of marketing your book (in this thread) are not that impressive. I don't actually think i could learn anything from reading it. It does not look like you've found good ways to deal with problems or getting over it.

That was actually not my intention at all.

I legit had a person on moddb.com evoke violent behavior, under an anonymous guest post, and It really did bogle my mind as to why he would do such a thing.

I had a post that was actually me trying to be creative and marketing here, but the moderators thought it was too quid pro quo and it involved money, which is TECHNICALLY against the rules here.

If you expected some kind of “you can do it” language in my book, it's told through stories, not directly.

Anyways,

looks like it's ranked 1 on digital and 2 on physical, on my publishers website which hopefully means I'm doing something right…

If you want some motivation, try this one on for size?

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GeneralJist said:

looks like it's ranked 1 on digital and 2 on physical, on my publishers website which hopefully means I'm doing something right…

Now that boggles my mind. Why would anyone buy that drivel. I suspect it's just their marketing ploy…

GeneralJist said:
That was actually not my intention at all.

GeneralJist said:
looks like it's ranked 1 on digital and 2 on physical, on my publishers website which hopefully means I'm doing something right…

There is it again. Right after consciously denying the obvious - shameless subconscious self advertisement!!! /:O\

Now of coarse we wanna know how many sold books that means. We all have a need for a 2nd job, so why not writing a book?

Two things going on here:

  1. People are dicks on the internet. This should not come as a surprise to anyone. Online harassment campaigns and death threats are the new normal.
  2. The way you are presenting yourself on the internet is kind of painting a target on your back. I mean, you act like you're a game developer, but you're not actually a game designer or a programmer or an artist or even a sound guy. You're a “producer”/"PR manager"/"Project Coordinator". To the game developers on the front line actually making games, that sounds like you're one of those business types that we all love to hate. You brag about getting people to work for you for free. You ask incredibly naïve newbie questions and then turn around and hand out advice from up high. And you're trying to promote a product on the internet when 99% of the internet is actively hostile toward any and all marketing. I have nothing against you personally - I have my own mental health issues and social dysfunctions to struggle with - but I'm also not at all surprised that you would attract some of the worst of the internet.

HMM

  1. ya but violence? really violence? this is the new standard? gosh….
  2. Yes, but I don't pretend to be anything different. I'm not saying I can do any of those core skills, I can however write, and I know some look down on that, but that is on them. Also one of the reasons for my organizations success is I am doing all of those things,, those time consuming things, SO the specialists can focus 100% on development.

Thank you for actually paying attention.

JoeJ said:
There is it again

ok, well it was not my ORIGINAL INTENTION,

shrugs

I'll shut up now…

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GeneralJist said:
ok, well it was not my ORIGINAL INTENTION, shrugs I'll shut up now…

I think we are at the core to answer your question.
Likely there is nothing you can do about people ranting or using violent language. But if that's a problem, you can change your behavior to minimize their motivation to do so.

Taking this thread as an example, i see a pattern of bragging / pretending success:

GeneralJist said:
Is my success really that threatening?

You imply to be more successful than your audience, triggering some responses like:

m_waddams said:
Please tell us about your success.

JoeJ said:
Now of coarse we wanna know how many sold books that means. We all have a need for a 2nd job, so why not writing a book?

a light breeze said:
… and then turn around and hand out advice from up high.

The responses, harsh or gentle, converge at a similar behaviors. The audience tries to turn your success into something minor and jokes about it, to pull you down from your high horse.

Now i'm no psychologist, but i assume you have built up this high horse in an attempt of self confirmation. And it worked for you, so it became a habit.
And now you wonder why, although it works for you, it does not work for your audience. E.g., you feel like you don't get the respect you would expect considering your success.
But the reason to that is simple: The audience simply does not buy your claim of success. The claim feels pretended and lacks proof. It feels made up and generates doubt.
After that, the discussion circles about disrupting the claim a lot, to figure out what's real.
The irony is: You may have build up the habit as a mechanism of self defense, and the critical response you get now also is self defense of the audience aiming to pull you down from the high horse to get even.
At this point we're stuck, and the obvious solution seems to change your habit. Respect or reputation is not something you can request or expect, and maybe you should not even care about it, to get it for free in the end.

Noted..

Talk less do more, got it.

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https://honorgames.co/

My New Book!:

https://booklocker.com/books/13011.html

So everyone cool with making desire_most_attention_expect_to_get_poked static?

a light breeze said:
People are dicks on the internet. This should not come as a surprise to anyone. Online harassment campaigns and death threats are the new normal.

So true. It's noticeably worse the last 6 years or so, according to my inbox. 🙂

@generaljist My advice if you're going to put any form of creative work in the world is to practice humility, whether the work is well received or not. You won't like what everyone has to say about you or your work but listen to the things that hurt the most or that you are most annoyed by. Those are usually the most truthful comments as they go straight to the ego, and self reflection on why those comments are most painful are the opportunities to improve.

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