the dark age of gaming

Eelco · 2005-05-19T03:31:56

Quote:Original post by superpigQuote:Original post by Eelcoi agree PC's will have some time to catch up on the consoles. but these starting positions are quite unprecendent. add to that the scalability of the cell architecture (PS3.x?), and the ceiling in x86 architecture i dont see disappearing anytime soon, and i doubt that even in six years PC's will have caught on to what will be possible on the cell then.I'd be very careful not to overestimate the Cell. At the moment we don't have anything to go on beyond what Sony Marketing have told us; there's an unbiased source if I ever heard one [grin] Likewise for Xbox360. You might be right, but I won't agree until we see the full range of games for the systems (or even better, devkits with fully accurate technical details). well, the realtime videos (proven to be so by interactive usage) are quite convincing imo. all marketing hype aside: i truely do believe the PS3 is able to carry physics in games to a whole new level. that water demo is more thasn friggin impressive. ive done quite some tinkering with the subject, and wasnt really impressed when i saw the first bit. but when this guy started picking up water and tossing it around with his VR gloves, my jaw did hit the floor. i wasnt even aware there were decent algorithms for that yet, all id seen so far with that regard were ten second movies computed very much NOT in realtime, and looking less convincing than what was happening on that screen there. not only are this applications where the cell can throw its full power at because of parralelism, sony has also managed to get some awesome researchers onboard. if they have this sort of stuff all packed up into a physics lib for the PS3 that comes with the devkit by the time it comes out...Quote:Also, who says x86 is going to be around for the next six years?6 years is a long time, but there doesnt seem to be anything spectacular on the horizon for the next three years atleast. and why would there be in case the driving force of PC development moves to other platforms? my word processor has ran fine for years, and thats still the main intended and applied use of PC's: office applications. and this sector would only get hugely fucked over by switching to a radically different architecture. i dont see it happening in the near future.

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Started by Riviera Kid May 18, 2005 08:35 AM

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May 18, 2005 08:35 AM

I have a prediction. I hope i am wrong. The ps3 and xbox 360 dominate the gaming market. Noone buys any more pc gaming hardware, production falls, prices rise. Cant install operating systems on consoles. (tell me if i am wrong) Indie game development is dead. No vga out therefore everyone must buy a hdtv and play in the living room getting interupted by family etc. All fps are designed to be played with a controller. Anyone with a keyboard and mouse will rule online. Online gaming dies. Rts arnt that popular on consoles. Kids saturate the console market. Graphics become so easy to reproduce gameplay goes out the window and we get the same rehash of games every year because kids will buy them. Only when the consoles are basically a compact pc with an o/s, keyboard and mouse as standard will gaming pick up again. I feel this way because almost every game is going to be released on a console including ut2007, quake 4 and the elder scrolls 4. Also everything at e3 so far seams to be graphics orientated and very little about gameplay. I also enjoy upgrading my pc.

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antareus

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May 18, 2005 08:40 AM

Here's another: a staggering influx of gaming doomsday prophets invade the GameDev forums, posting elitist, large diatribes based upcoming console technology demos.

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May 18, 2005 08:47 AM

Oh no!!! What should we do? [/sarc]

Get a grip!

"The dark age of gaming" LOL!!!!

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Conner McCloud

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May 18, 2005 08:47 AM

Blah blah blah. I'm a pissed of PC gamer who refuses to embrace new technology. The fact that consoles have been the dominant market for a decade doesn't matter, its this current generation that's killing my poor baby. Cry for me.

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May 18, 2005 08:51 AM

Quote:Original post by Riviera Kid

Cant install operating systems on consoles. (tell me if i am wrong)

You are wrong. Linux runs on anything.

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May 18, 2005 08:52 AM

Quote:Original post by Penten
Quote:Original post by Riviera Kid

Cant install operating systems on consoles. (tell me if i am wrong)

You are wrong. Linux runs on anything.

i know but i heard that they are going to take measures to prevent linux from being installed.

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May 18, 2005 08:53 AM

Quote:Original post by Riviera Kid
Quote:Original post by Penten
Quote:Original post by Riviera Kid

Cant install operating systems on consoles. (tell me if i am wrong)

You are wrong. Linux runs on anything.

i know but i heard that they are going to take measures to prevent linux from being installed.

Yes well, you might need a mod chip I suppose...

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PnP Bios

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May 18, 2005 09:18 AM

The Dark ages of gaming was the early 1980's. Arcades died, and have never truly came back. The Atari 2600's coffin was nailed shut with ET, and the horrid port of Pac Man. We can blame one man for all this. Ray Kassar, one time CEO of Atari when it was owned by Warner Communications.

I don't think that this will result in a 'dark age' of gaming, but perhaps another paradigm shift.

I think that if there was a unified way for independent developers to publish their games, there could be a resurgance of basement projects. Many independant games are prety cool. The problem is that it is so hard make them visible. If there was a distribution system, then it would be easy to get independent games visible, and making money.

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Marmin

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May 18, 2005 09:20 AM

Quote:Original post by Riviera Kid
Indie game development is dead.

No, because there is a huge difference between a commercial title and a really original, (free) game made by a lone developer or a small team. No super-grafix can make that otherwise; but of course they are a nice side-feature. (imo)

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May 18, 2005 09:46 AM

Quote:Original post by Marmin
Quote:Original post by Riviera Kid
Indie game development is dead.
No, because there is a huge difference between a commercial title and a really original, (free) game made by a lone developer or a small team. No super-grafix can make that otherwise; but of course they are a nice side-feature. (imo)

pc gaming will die. Indie Console development will be restricted by sony and microsoft. So who is going to play it?

you certainly wont be able to download free games for the xbox360/ps3

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